Owen

I can ASSURE EVERYONE that if i start a forum it will be run well, coded well, 
and require everyone to be the REAL person they are, we will not tolerate any 
mud slinging and while opinions and views will be welcome, insults will not

though tbh i was part of the rivendell project working with some great people 
back in 2006, i was only a teenager in the behind the scenes implementation

But a forum written and codedc well and moderated (which is why i hope fred 
joins in this ) will be beneficial for years to come, as google LOVES forums 
and will no doubt pick up everything to be searchable

Ill look at the example you have given and research it thoroughly, i ALMOST 
had a test system ready today but it wanted something called madlib or 
something and the install failed

ill try again tonight



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