On Mon, 2015-04-20 at 20:21 -0400, Cowboy wrote: > On Monday 20 April 2015 07:27:55 pm Jay Ashworth wrote: > > I'd probably build it myself off the Appliance disc; this /is/ supposed to > > be what I do for a living... :-) >
I'll smile a little bit on this one, there are a bunch of folks who build, sell and service Rivendell, and as long as you do it right, you're <sorta> golden. I would stress that the builds have to be right, and I have seen a bunch of them, while functional, are not "just quite right" > In your case, I'd hack together a working "demo" ( on board sound, > bargain-basement stuff like that ) and let 'em run them side by side > for a while. > Show 'em how to do what they can't, or at least find a challenge, on > whatever they're using now. > Toss in a few of their "wish list" functions, then the ease of remote > support, maybe remote access themselves, and it should sell itself. BSI vs Rivendell, is a no brainier, I agree, take the time to build up twin systems, and let em go at it. I'd have the station folks, or the production guys/gals work with you, so they can see just how they work together. I think most, except for the most die-hard BSI fans, the choice will be easy, just show em the voice tracker. > I usually toss in something about Rivendell's biggest problem is > just being an Enco or NexGen class system for a BSI price. > Agreed, station owners generally see that while it's a good product, they "can get away cheap", if they want too. "If it's free, it's must not be as good as something I have to pay a lot for" WRONG!, but that's how they see it. What they miss is the "How important is your station running really smoothly, without hiccups and stuff" question. Rivendell will run an a 486, and a gig or ram... It will, but it's not really how it should be run, which brings me to.... > *Although* you may still find it advantageous to quote a Paravel > box, because of that "perceived value" being directly proportional > to cost thing. a whole lot of people have set up the system, with servers, workstations, etc, and been really successful. This is in part to the really fine work of the developers, and the Paravel folks!. At the same time, I think the reason behind the professional installation, is for "professional installations" I know of no real automation system, that isn't provided fully installed, with training.. Sure, there are the simple "put a software package on and computer and fly" programs, but anyone who has seriously explored Rivendell, and seriously wants to run a group of stations with it, would agree that Rivendell is NOT a "simple" program, and although the average person can put the disk in and get a running system, those systems are usually far from the optimized version that I would be comfortable with! For a station with multiple workstations, servers, feeds and records, podcasting, data streams, etc, you can take the months for figure it out, (while your air product suffers in the meantime), or just have it built, installed and configured, by the folk who know it best. Regardless, the paid version is about 1/3 the cost of the other larger systems, Zetta, Nextgen, Wide Orbit, etc, and for the most part, they all do about the same things. Like a lot of us who have used it for a while, we think we know it, and it serves our needs. After working on a few projects, some with, and others without support, the money for a turnkey system is very well spent. Believe me, there is a lot more to Rivendell, then most people suspect, just slapping together a system "that works" isn't always the best way. _______________________________________________ Rivendell-dev mailing list [email protected] http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
