On Mon, 2015-04-20 at 20:21 -0400, Cowboy wrote:
On Monday 20 April 2015 07:27:55 pm Jay Ashworth wrote:
I'd probably build it myself off the Appliance disc; this /is/ supposed to be
what I do for a living... :-)
I'll smile a little bit on this one, there are a bunch of folks who
build, sell and service Rivendell, and as long as you do it right,
you're <sorta> golden. I would stress that the builds have to be
right, and I have seen a bunch of them, while functional, are not "just
quite right"
In your case, I'd hack together a working "demo" ( on board sound,
bargain-basement stuff like that ) and let 'em run them side by side
for a while.
Show 'em how to do what they can't, or at least find a challenge, on
whatever they're using now.
Toss in a few of their "wish list" functions, then the ease of remote
support, maybe remote access themselves, and it should sell itself.
BSI vs Rivendell, is a no brainier, I agree, take the time to build up
twin systems, and let em go at it. I'd have the station folks, or the
production guys/gals work with you, so they can see just how they work
together. I think most, except for the most die-hard BSI fans, the
choice will be easy, just show em the voice tracker.
I usually toss in something about Rivendell's biggest problem is
just being an Enco or NexGen class system for a BSI price.
Agreed, station owners generally see that while it's a good product,
they "can get away cheap", if they want too. "If it's free, it's must
not be as good as something I have to pay a lot for" WRONG!, but that's
how they see it.
What they miss is the "How important is your station running really
smoothly, without hiccups and stuff" question. Rivendell will run an a
486, and a gig or ram... It will, but it's not really how it should be
run, which brings me to....
*Although* you may still find it advantageous to quote a Paravel
box, because of that "perceived value" being directly proportional
to cost thing.
a whole lot of people have set up the system, with servers,
workstations, etc, and been really successful. This is in part to the
really fine work of the developers, and the Paravel folks!. At the same
time, I think the reason behind the professional installation, is for
"professional installations" I know of no real automation system, that
isn't provided fully installed, with training.. Sure, there are the
simple "put a software package on and computer and fly" programs, but
anyone who has seriously explored Rivendell, and seriously wants to run
a group of stations with it, would agree that Rivendell is NOT a
"simple" program, and although the average person can put the disk in
and get a running system, those systems are usually far from the
optimized version that I would be comfortable with!
For a station with multiple workstations, servers, feeds and records,
podcasting, data streams, etc, you can take the months for figure it
out, (while your air product suffers in the meantime), or just have it
built, installed and configured, by the folk who know it best.
Regardless, the paid version is about 1/3 the cost of the other larger
systems, Zetta, Nextgen, Wide Orbit, etc, and for the most part, they
all do about the same things.
Like a lot of us who have used it for a while, we think we know it, and
it serves our needs. After working on a few projects, some with, and
others without support, the money for a turnkey system is very well
spent. Believe me, there is a lot more to Rivendell, then most people
suspect, just slapping together a system "that works" isn't always the
best way.
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