----- Original Message ---- > From: Michael McGrady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: river-dev@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 11:15:17 AM > Subject: Re: Split JavaSpaces and JINI > > Thanks, Greg. I think your worries are misplaced. There is nothing in the > suggestion regarding splitting JavaSpaces and JINI that will affect JINI > negatively. > > There is no question, I think, of "taking JavaSpaces our of JINI". Rather, > the > idea is to decouple them. > > Modern computing, as you know, is in large part all about how to properly > organize complex systems. Two related tools are to decouple modules and to > make > sure that a module has high cohesion. So, all that is being discussed here > is > how to decouple, not a divorce. This may only require moving the Entry > interface over to JavaSpaces. That "plain and simple", or close to it. That > is > what was meant, I think, by relax. > > The Javaspace API is of interest independent of JIN, as others have pointed > outI. If River won't decouple them, then that is an unnecessary limitation > of > the codebase which would be unfortunate for a project seeking interested > people. >
I'm waiting for real examples of what to decouple which can't be done now through no utilization of an API. For instance, for a local space, what needs to be taken out to make things work? If it is to be used as a local space, and that is the intent for all purposes, then why use discovery or lookup to find it. Why not just implement it and use it directly? That can be done now per the interfaces and abstract classes. I think this is part of the problem with a debate. We need real examples of what can't be done now to see why the argument makes sense. To me it isn't completely comprehendible yet, and I think because I don't see exactly what can't be done which you are needing to do. The exact pieces in the way. Is it having to include this or that JAR, is it the fact that Entry and Transaction are used? Those are pretty simple classes along with Lease and LeaseMap. Is it the way things work now, and you mean to have them work more like an object bus versus a JavaSpace with leases and transactions? I think we're missing the common understanding to move the discussion forward more easily. Maybe even a simple source example would do. Wade ================== Wade Chandler, CCE Software Engineer and Developer, Certified Forensic Computer Examiner, NetBeans Dream Team Member, and NetBeans Board Member http://www.certified-computer-examiner.com http://wiki.netbeans.org/wiki/view/NetBeansDreamTeam http://www.netbeans.org
