Dom'le, ce sa zicem, atatea capete, atatea pareri :)
Daca unii vor sa explice ce e deja explicat, ii invit sa (re)inventeze
si apa calda, mersul pe jos si alte chestii la fel de bune in folosul
comunitatii.
Eu unul nu m-am plans niciodata de pagina de man (si sa-mi arate mie
unul o pagina de man prost facuta) si nici de sursa in ultima instanta.
Eu zic ca e chestie de atitudine, cine vrea sa puna osul la treaba
il pune, putorile raman la cersit si actualmente *acolo sa ramana*.
Consultanta se plateste pe bani buni, si e si pacat sa dai mura in gura
cand omul nu isi da interesul. Aviz celor care intreaba dar se mira de
ce nu li se raspunde.
A, si BTW, google e facut ca sa cauti chestii cu el, nu ca sa te simti
prost. A nu se confunda scopul cu efectul colateral :)


On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 07:26:19PM +0200, Teodor Cimpoesu wrote:
> O observatie pertinenta :-)
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from Greg Horne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -----
> 
> From: "Greg Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Google Attitude was RE: Unclassified Disk "Sanitizers"
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 14:02:03 -0800
> Organization: Flashaccess.com, Inc.
> Message-ID: <002901c1c0a3$8f0bc500$0e0101c0@frankenstien>
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616
> 
>       I know what you mean.  It seems to me that a lot of people take
> for granted the knowledge that they have.  I mean, not everybody knows
> WHAT to search for on google.  They usually need a point in the right
> direction, and that is what this list is for.  
>       
>       There is one LUG I know that has a few people who are starting
> to get the "google attitude" and I don't like it, it brings the
> community down.  My mom knows nothing about computers and can't just
> tell her to RTFM.  I have to step her through logging in to XP, logging
> on to the internet, and opening explorer, etc.  HELP people, don't make
> them feel stupid.  
> 
>       BTW, this list contains a plethora of knowledge for which I am
> grateful for :)  Thanks all!
> 
> Greg Horne
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Harris Samuel W PORT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:15 AM
> > To: 'Phil Park'; Sadler, Connie J
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Unclassified Disk "Sanitizers"
> > 
> >     I am really disappointed in the continuing answer "use Google"
> or
> > use something else. All of the people on this list know how to use a
> > search
> > engine. What the beginners are asking is for advice on which ones are
> good
> > sites and which ones are bad. I remember the trouble I had finding
> good
> > sites. My time was very limited and I needed to concentrate on getting
> the
> > best info in the little time available to me. This is Security BASICS
> > after
> > all. There are a lot of beginners on this list and understandably
> there
> > will
> > be a lot of duplication of questions and answers. What were you people
> > like
> > in the beginning of your studies. I am sure we are all alike. I knew
> next
> > to
> > nothing and thanks to a great bunch of people I was able to gather a
> lot
> > of
> > info despite  thanks to the "use Google" crowd.
> > 
> > Samuel Harris
> > A+, MCP, Networking Certificate, Phi Theta Kappa
> > Portsmouth Naval Shipyard
> > Portsmouth , NH 03801
> > (207) 438-1275
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Phil Park [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 10:50 AM
> > To: Sadler, Connie J
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Unclassified Disk "Sanitizers"
> > 
> > 
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > 
> > PGP (go to www.pgpi.org) has a wipe feature. The Windows version will
> wipe
> > files and free space as well.
> > 
> > You can also go to google and search for "secure delete".
> > 
> > thx
> > - --phil
> > - --
> > phil park
> > system administrator
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 208.885.5562 (phone)
> > 208.885.7099 (fax)
> > 419.730.3247 (e-fax)
> > http://www.csds.uidaho.edu
> > 
> > On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Sadler, Connie J wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > Does anyone have recommendations for freeware or shareware that
> > effectively
> > > erases disks for unclassified but sensitive information? This would
> be
> > used
> > > for all machines "retired" to school programs, etc. We need one for
> > Windows
> > > and one for UNIX, if one tool can't clean both types of disks.
> Anybody
> > have
> > > experience with this?
> > >
> > > Thank you!
> > >
> > > Connie
> > >
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