On Thu June 5 2003 9:49 pm, James Washer wrote:
> That's the beauty of the open source model..... Grab the source,
> change the behaviour, be happy.
>
>  - jim

Besides a computeer aint' no fun if you don't crash it once in a 
while. Rich

> On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 15:24:39 -0700
>
> "Robinson, Eric R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I had a feeling it was something like that. I disagree with the
> > approach, though. I have important production machines where I
> > follow all the rules, login as user, su root, etc. I have other
> > machines where I have evaluated the risk as insignificant and
> > chosen to login root. It's hard to imagine I am unusual in having
> > a mix like that.
> >
> > Insurmountable security risks? Nah. They could just have a pop-up
> > that says, "You're logged in as root. Zat cool?" Just because I
> > login root sometimes does not mean I don't want the edibility to
> > lock my screen when I do.
> >
> > As far as "begging for disaster goes," I guess I should be
> > frustrated. Apparently I've been begging earnestly for years and
> > never received. Just lucky I guess.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nathan G. Grennan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 7:08 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [RLUG] RedHat "Lock Screen"
> >
> > On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 16:40, Eric Robinson wrote:
> > > Hey, here's something that has annoyed me to no end, and I'm
> > > sure it is just because I don't know what I am doing, but...
> > >
> > > I have installed various versions of Red Hat over the years,
> > > from 5 through 9. The GUI has gotten better, but the "Lock
> > > Screen" feature has never worked on any machine, with any
> > > version (okay, maybe once, a long time ago, but never since). I
> > > select it and nothing happens. It's getting kind of funny. I
> > > sometimes imagine that in a few years I'll end up installing
> > > Red Hat 15, and the "Lock Screen" feature will still not work.
> > > What must I do to get this working?
> >
> > Works fine for me. Using it many times a day.
> >
> >
> > Question 6 from the XScreensaver FAQ
> >
> >
> >   * When I'm logged in as root, xscreensaver won't lock my
> > screen!
> >
> > Don't log in as root.
> >
> > Please note that xscreensaver works fine as a screen saver when
> > you are logged in as root: it will not, however, lock your screen
> > when you are logged in as root. This is for good and
> > insurmountable security reasons.
> >
> > In order for it to be safe for xscreensaver to be launched by
> > xdm, certain precautions had to be taken, among them that
> > xscreensaver never runs as root. In particular, if it is launched
> > as root (as xdm is likely to do), xscreensaver will disavow its
> > privileges, and switch itself to a safe user id (such as
> > ``nobody''.)
> >
> > An implication of this is that if you log in as root on the
> > console, xscreensaver will refuse to lock the screen (because it
> > can't tell the difference between root being logged in on the
> > console, and a normal user being logged in on the console but
> > xscreensaver having been launched by the xdm ``Xsetup'' file.)
> >
> > The solution to this is simple: you shouldn't be logging in on
> > the console as root in the first place! (What, are you crazy or
> > something?)
> >
> > Proper Unix hygiene dictates that you should log in as yourself,
> > and su to root as necessary. People who spend their day logged in
> > as root are just begging for disaster.
> >
> >
> >
> > Question 28 from XScreensaver FAQ
> >
> >
> >   * What's the difference between xscreensaver and xlock?
> >
> > XScreenSaver is a screen saver and a screen locker; XLock is only
> > a locker. XScreenSaver is modular and extensible; XLock is
> > monolithic. XScreenSaver has a secure and auditable design;
> > XLock... doesn't. More details can be found on the XScreenSaver
> > versus XLock page.
> >
> >
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