Hi All,

Brain-dead observations and questions follow- run for your lives!

I have always wanted to look at a "real UNIX" distribution of some kind, and recently got a FreeBSD CD. I visited the Web site and noted that the version on my CD is just a bit old. Nonetheless, I gathered some supported hardware from the PC bone yard at work and built myself a 400MHz PII, 224MB RAM, 3COM 3C905B-TX NIC, nVIDIA RIVA TNT2 64 Video. The FSB is 100MHz and it has 512kB L2 Cache. I added a 14GB UATA Mode 2 disk and tested it out with Ubuntu first to make sure I had built a "sound" PC. It worked like a charm.

Then I read a little more from the FreeBSD Web site and set about the task of installing. After two attempts, I got it on there and it works great. Well, it works. I didn't install much in the way of packages during setup, so now I have to figure out how to do that post install. Although I did remember how to hand configure X with xf86config, I was blown away by the fact that I had to do that at all. "Gary," said I to myself, said I, "welcome to 1997 and Slackware all over again!"

I saw the boot-up hardware detection process recognize my hardware, including the worthless nVIDIA card. So how come I had to hand configure X after another piece of software already identified it? There ought to be a warning on the CD: "Warning! This UNIX software is designed to be infinitely flexible and ultimately configurable. And that means you will be doing a lot of double-takes, and saying things like, 'What the...'"

Okay, all sarcasm aside, is it really necessary for the install of a "modern UNIX" to be counter-intuitive and seemingly antiquated? Is there a point to that? Is this a rite of passage kind of thing? I have always wanted to install and fiddle with something close to the real thing, but I ignorantly expected it to dance circles around the problems I have encountered with Windows over the years. I mean, Ubuntu "warty" dances circles around the trouble I had today, and it installs in total text mode. Don't get me wrong, I'm comfortable at a command line, but... Oh well, I guess I just don't get it. I stopped /getting it/, I suppose, when, after many years of doing it every day with DOS and Windows, it became a real nuisance to fix Windows for people. Maybe the sheer magic of spending hours banging my head on a problem all weekend, like I used to when I managed the company network, has been lost. Now, at least most of the time when I install an OS, I just want the blasted thing to install and work. I sure picked the wrong OS for that kind of thing! <Whine - snivel> ...delay... <chuckle>

I suppose I still have a little bit of spit and vinegar left in me, and a curiosity that often proves nearly fatal, so I think I will do some more installs and see if I can figure out what is happening to the data obtained during the initial hardware detection process. Maybe it isn't being written to a data cache for later use. I hope that's not the case, because no explanation will make me appreciate a choice to throw away good data and force an installer to manually configure the graphics server. BTW, I had to do that 4 times, after a successful install, before I finally picked a mouse configuration it liked. I would have used the more modern xf86conf, but I read somewhere that it has a reputation for being a nightmare. After all, I wasn't trying to be a glutton for punishment. Maybe I made a mistake in that choice.

<Whew! This guy is long winded...>
Final question: I read some time back that a couple of people in the group like and use FreeBSD. If that is still the case, do you mind if I shoot the occasional question your way? I will more than likely need the help now and then.

Thanks a bunch for the help (and the flames I'm about to endure <chuckle>)!

-Gary

--

Gary L. Allen
Engineer, Certified Computer Professional

Windows? "The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is ta' stop up the 
drain." -Scotty


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