On 9/29/05, Dave Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 29, 2005, at 5:00 PM, Elias Torres wrote: > > Excellent research Dave. I'm really struggling to believe that people > > make good use of hierarchies when it comes to categories. I hate > > taxonomies for that matter too (I know I'll regret saying this). Did > > you guys get a big push to add hierarchies by the community? > > No we really didn't. I saw hierarchies in Bloxsom and Blojsom plus I > saw hierarchical categories as a way create separate blogs within one > blog. For example, my main blog would be under category /blog/* and my > linkblog would be under /linkblog/*. I actually had that working, then > we ran into problems with my Hibernate/Castor query-wrappers, we ported > from HSQL queries to Hibernate Query API and we lost recursive queries. > I think there is a patch in JIRA to restore recursive queries. I'd > like to see them back in Roller because without recursion, hierarchical > cats are almost useless. > > > >> Is hierarchy the fundamental difference between categories and tags? > >> What can you do with tags that Roller categories don't allow? Assign > >> multiple tags to each blog entry. Create new tags on the fly. Easily > >> query for tags across multiple blogs. We could modify Roller > >> categories > >> to allow those things and be more like tags. > >> > >> So far I see three options: > >> 1) Complete categories by allowing multiple and add tags too > >> 2) Replace existing category (and bookmark folder) code with tags > >> 3) Refactor and rework existing category system so that it acts like > >> tags > > > > 3) sounds a lot like 2) as I understand it. Refactoring would mean you > > don't need to have categories created before using them (meaning tags) > > and that would also mean removing the hierarchical nature of > > categories, so in the end we would just have tags as 2). > > > > Before choosing between 1 and 2 I'd like to get your opinion if this > > has a chance of being included in 2.0. > > I think it's too late for 2.0. > > Elias: how many of your users are using multiple categories?
368 users are using multiple categories and ~14% or better yet 3188 out of 21807 (all of these use at least one category, there are more but w/o categories). > > - Dave > >
