(Back online - took a while to figure out this hotel's network setup) On 2/25/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I presume that's every PMC vote that was on a public list? Rather than > > every PMC vote? Seems that it would largely be a history of release > > discussions. > > It's even more important to log the *outcome* of the occaisonal > PMC-list votes because they are not public. The discussions are > sensitive, but the tally of the vote should not be. We want our > process to be as transparent as possible (since this is how we teach > developers to become committers).
So I see four constructs of a private vote on a PMC list - the issue, the discussion, the votes, the result. There are two main reasons to have a private discussion - security (be it legal or software) and social (ie: it'd be impolite to site there throwing out -1's on a public list). In both cases, I can't see any reason why any one of the four should become public - and in both cases I can't see why the discussion is more important to keep private than the other three. If a PMC is able to publicize 3 of the 4, it seems to me that it should just be having the votes on the -dev list. > > What are advantages are you finding of recording that? Again, > > nitpicking rather than being against the idea, seems better just to > > put in a link to the RESULT email in mail-archives. Only one I can > > think of is that it helps to maintain the dynamic charter of a project > > - as with all docs, the real charter gets set in stone and becomes > > untouchable. > > Posting the tally in the STATUS file can serve as the RESULT email. > The change to the STATUS goes out over the list, so everyone sees it. > Now two goals are accomplished with one action. We have closure on the > vote, and we have a summary of the votes for future reference. One big disadvantage; the result is not a part of the vote thread - chances are it's not even been sent to the same mailing list. Minor nitpick - STATUS seems like a bad name - it implies the current and what you're describing sounds more like an equivalent to the US constitution's amendments - except with the noise of unimportant issues (for the communities collective understanding) such as release votes and pmc/committer votes. Hen
