I can see why you create your lists as you do, but I agree with both the amendments. I use the topic plugin all the time and occasionally the smiley plugin. (I will document it some time and would use it more if I knew how to invoke some of the odder smileys (particularly the smug one.))

I personally think the ConvertLineBreaksPlugin produces terrible HTML and is hard to incorporate into a theme and inhibits the formating of code and tables (which I also oppose in blog articles), so would suggest that it is an extra not core.

The customers, i.e. people who make the plugins available for use are the site managers, but removing it would mean that people will have to learn HTML. You can survive with <P>, <A> and <IMG> though how hard is that?

Dave Johnson wrote:
On 8/29/06, Allen Gilliland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
2. Move all plugins which are shipped with Roller into the core src
directory so they are actually part of the main build.

3. Remove all plugins which are *not* going to be shipped with Roller
from being included in a standard build.  They can stay in the contrib
area and just be built separately, or possibly moved elsewhere like the
Roller support project.

anyone object to any of these steps?

+1 on this idea

keep in core:
ConvertLineBreaksPlugin
BookmarkPlugin
ObfuscateEmailPlugin

I'd replace the BookmarkPlugin with TopicTagPlugin, based on popularity.

- Dave

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