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Dear Friends from Romania, My name is Stefano Cobello and I am
coordinating a network of schools in Verona Italy. I am writing to you
beacuse we had such a disgreasful experience in our last grundtivg 2
meeting in Romania: The responsible of this was a romanian lady , Lia
Elena Porfir, representing 2 organisations Phoenix Carita Society -
Horezu -Branch ( Horezu town T. Vladimirescu str. B1.R2 - Office
Ramnicu Valcea n. Balcescu, str. 28/ap. 217 Valcea Region tel / fax
0040250861945, moble 0040724467833) and the Active Education Centres
Network and creative tourism in Romanian Rural area IFS and FONPC member the second adress is: Moldova : Ceahlau, Bicaz and Brosteni - Dobrogea: Costanta - Oltenia: Horzu, Pestisani/ Obita e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here in attachment underneath you will find all the e-mail justifying what i am saying. 1 this persons in order to organise the parnter meeting asked us a contribution of 100 euro each beacuse she did not received any money form the national agency 2. she asked us from Budapest to Valcea 110 euro per person ( we refused it) and we agreed of 300 euro return minubus, but at the enf was a single way and 350 euro. 3. she organzed a stay for us, 11 persons, in a hotel Capela, which was disgusting place, dirty, somoked, and we had a bad dinner at our arrival, unberable food. Rooms and blankets were broken and dirty. 4. she asked us 41 euro per person for the hotel breakfast included, and we have found the the "hotel" price was in reality only 16 euro per person breakfast included. Then she asked us 6 euro per person for the cofeee break, 10 euro for dinner per person and 6 euro for lunch, 5 She also asked us 200 euro for the translator, 3 nice 17 years old students that she was going to pay 8 dolalrds per day, 3 days working, taken from a school, with the head master approval. In the moring we decided to look for another hotel, this one was impossible to bear. Lia told me: You will not find any hotel here, in 10 minutes afterwards were already were in a decent and cheaper hotel. 6. she told us that she was not guilty of it because she gave the task to organise everything to a local agency, that at the end we found didnot exist. 7. at this point we were to upset and decided to exclude the romanian partner form the project group, and seh was coming again asking us money, she also blackmail the young students, because we decided to give to them the 200 euro right away. NOw, i have met a lot of romanian persons and parnters and this is my first time of such an experience. I wanted to go to the police, but i am italian you know. So i ask you to disseminate on the network to every network you know this information in order to evoid that this woman could destroy the image of a marvellous country with extraordinary clever persons. Best regards Stefano Cobello Verona - Italy 1st e-mail by Lia Dear partner,
If you like to visit Bucharest it is OK.You change our plan for
first day.We know very good our town and our region,but not Bucharest
town-Bucharest is not our gardin.
We have the possibility"a fenster"in the first day when you arrive
in the morning and all the group will arrive in the night in Ramnicu
Valcea .If you like,in the first day including the visit Bucharest
,only for you ,please decide .
If you agreet that please comunicate me urgently.We will make some
arrangement in Bucharest.
Lia
2nd e-mail After some time I understand what you talked :
You like to visit Bucharest and come to Ramnicu Valcea together
all the group .It is OK.The minibus will come to Bucharest to the
airport at 19.00 h.
I regret so much ,but it is impossible to organise the meeting in
Bucharest.
Maybe B. will find a solution.Nobody sent us the brief
description of institution .In this case it is impossible to organise
the massmedia meeting or local authority contact.I dont know who are
the partners for who I make some efforts.Please make an small efort
and put in email short information about projects about
partners,objectives and beneficiares.We need time for translate
its.Take with you the broshures and others .
The actions for 28 aprilie are free .Sorry for my english.
See you in Ramnicu Valcea.
Yours,
Lia
if it is
3rd e-mail Buna dimineata (good morning),from Romania Dear B., Is there any room in the minubus for us? can we book another one? Why don't we think to go together? I still miss some information, who can gove them to me? Please dont be worry. You will be divded in two teams .The morning team ,5 italians people
will be wait to airport by our volunteer when they will arrive .A
minibus will wait .Be cause they have the departure in the morning too
in 01 may ,we will rent a minibus for comback .Every group will have a
volunteer to guide and to offer the support . You will arrive in Ramnicu Valcea town ,from 250 km away Bucharest .It is a old town ,very famous and very nice.Here ,we have two theatres,one philarmonique,three museums,two universitates ,three colllegiums and 7 high schools . Here is the city of romanian chimie too.Here is the place of salt
mine ...effect,the place of unic rocs in Europe ...,the unic wood
monastery...the caves .you will look with your eyces. General plan :every day we will have the theoretical course and in
pm we will organise the practical workshops ,focus-group with
beneficiaries from here ,visits,short meeting with officially and
massmedia ,traditional cultural moments ,surprises -I will send a plan Not exist negativ answer .We are responsible from your arrive until your departure. The price for rent the small minibuses are :300 Euro/Rm.Valcea -Bucharest -comback. For every people who coming in the morning or in the lunch time of 28 april ,the costs have plus the breakfast and lunch :lunch=10 Eu and brakfast = 2 x 3 Eu/day The polish and german people :rent a small car The italian -rent other minicar Program 28 .04.2005 Polish team 28.04.2005 -arrive airport 13.45 h /lunch Bucharest/ vist village museum and comback 19 h to airport for take the german people in the car Italian team 28.04.2005 -arrive airport 09.00 h direct to Ramnicu Valcea -program visits and discussions /lunch and breakfast German people 28.04.2005 -arrive airport 19 h -direct Ramnicu Valcea -dinner 4th. mail <Lia Dear friends, Very good ideas
you have ;restricted what I will
offer not payed by you .The meniu translated is our surprise.For what
that
decision ,if you not pay? This socio-cultural moments are our
specificity and
traditional colour. Be attent to
prices for romanian people finded by me
and negociated special for you: 1.travel
aeroport-Rm.Valcea-aeroport (28 apr-
01.may)118 EU/person 2.intern travel two
days- 64 Eu/pers 3.accomodation singl
.room 35 Eu/day x 3 days
= 105 EU 4.breakfast -6 Eu x 3
=18 Eu /person 5.dinner 7-8 Eu x 3
=21/24 Eu/person 6.lunch 10 Eu x 3
=30 Eu/person (one lunch
-packet in time travel to airoport 7.breakcoffe 6 Eu
x 3 = 18 Eu/person 8. rent the
fleapchart and salle part of day :18,2
Eu/person 9 translation 50
Eu/person /all period 12
mapes,visits,cultural afternoons and workshops
organisation in rural area -contribution of Phoenix Carita Aprox. Total cost 445
Eu /person Please correct me
if I maked the
mistakes. Thank you and good
afternoon and wekend . I hope you will
like here in a nice
romanian region.> All the best.
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