--- In [email protected], Sebastian Alexandru 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Inteleg d-le Iliescu anume ca stiti tot si inca ceva
> in plus :)

Raspund pentru ca vreau sa il informez pe dl. Alexandru, nu pentru a 
comenta mesajul dumnealui.
Recunosc ca nu am citit mesajele d-lui Iliescu, dar as supune 
atentiei si alte opinii, mai ales de cand constat ca pe lista apar 
constant pro-americani din Romania care imi pare ca devin stridenti 
in incercarile de a deveni mai americani decat americanii insisi, 
care se "aprind" de la expresii ca "invazia din Iraq", sau se intrec 
in epitete necunoscand cum CHIAR in US exista milioane de americani 
("get-beget", cum se spune), care vorbesc in EXACT aceiasi termeni.

Iata un exemplu:

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/02/news-corn.php

Is the President a Pathological Liar?
Bush's unhealthy relationship with reality

by David Corn  
 
It was a set-up question. Conservative radio talk-show host Michael 
Medved was trying to bait me, to push me into saying something so 
out of whack about the commander in chief that I would destroy my 
own credibility before the audience of his nationally syndicated 
show. It was a ruse I've become quite familiar with in recent weeks, 
since I published a book demurely titled The Lies of George W. Bush: 
Mastering the Politics of Deception. In scores of media interviews, 
right-wing hosts have pressed me to pronounce Bush the all-time 
biggest SOB-of-a-liar in the White House and essentially accuse him 
of being a psycho. I have resisted the invitations, choosing to 
stick to my just-the-facts case that Bush has misled the public on a 
host of issues � the war in Iraq, his tax cuts, global warming, 
Social Security, his own past and more. The goal of these 
interlocutors is to dismiss any harsh critique of Bush as nothing 
more than angry-left name-calling. I obviously believe Bush has lied 
often and consistently about grave matters, but I have shied away 
from labeling Bush "pathological" and the like.

Now I wonder about that.

What forced this reconsideration was a speech Bush delivered in late 
November to several thousand troops at Butts Army Air Field in Fort 
Carson, Colorado. On this occasion, Bush served up the usual rah-rah 
about the war on terrorism. But as he was hailing the U.S. military, 
he remarked, "Working with a fine coalition, our military went to 
Afghanistan, destroyed the training camps of al Qaeda and put the 
Taliban out of business forever."

Out of business forever?

That was a false statement. Days before Bush's speech, a U.S. 
helicopter crashed near Kabul, and five American soldiers were 
killed. These troops were hunting Taliban remnants. Two days before 
the speech, a rocket was fired at the Intercontinental Hotel in 
Kabul; Taliban insurgents were the prime suspects. On November 16, a 
U.N. aid worker was assassinated, apparently by the Taliban. In 
Kandahar, the Taliban was threatening to harm Afghans who 
participated in local elections.

None of this has been secret, even if events in Afghanistan receive 
less media coverage than the Laci Peterson case. In recent weeks, a 
stream of news reports has noted that the Taliban is on the rise and 
mounting an increasing number of attacks. These assaults have 
impeded much-needed reconstruction projects. In mid-November, a U.N. 
mission reported that the Taliban attacks were endangering democracy 
in Afghanistan.

What then could account for Bush's truth-defying assertion about the 
Taliban? After all, it was a statement ridiculously easy to 
disprove. (The Bush bashers of Moveon.org immediately sent out a 
mass e-mail citing this remark as further evidence that Bush is a 
misleader.) Was Bush really trying to hornswoggle the troops and the 
American people? In a way. I assume that had he bothered to think 
about this line, he probably would have realized that it was 
inaccurate and that there was no reason to claim the Taliban was 
stone-cold dead when he could have truthfully declared that the U.S. 
military (under his command) and its Afghan allies had routed the 
Taliban. It was not as if Bush said to himself, Aha! I know what 
I'll do. I will boast that I eliminated the Taliban � even though 
anyone who follows this stuff knows a Taliban resurgence is under 
way � and fool people into believing I am winning the war on 
terrorism.

Bush was more likely engaged in the deceit of triumphalism � 
ignoring facts and saying whatever sounds good to juice up the 
public. It was hype, extreme rhetoric, utterly divorced from events 
on the ground. This statement was a report from Planet Bush, not the 
world as it exists � a demonstration of Bush's penchant to embrace 
(and peddle) self-serving fantasy over the obvious truth.

The dishonesty underlying the Taliban line was transparent. In the 
same speech, Bush also practiced (yet again) a more nuanced form of 
dissembling. He told the crowd that the war on terrorism began with 
9/11, and that "we will not rest until we bring these committed 
killers to justice. These terrorists will not be stopped by 
negotiations, or by appeals to reason, or by the least hint of 
conscience . . . We must, and we will continue to, take the fight to 
the enemy." So far so good: The terrorists who mounted the 9/11 
attacks are bad and must be defeated. Then Bush distorted the 
picture: "Terrorists need places to hide, to plot and to train, so 
we're holding their allies, the allies of terror, to account." And 
he cited Afghanistan and Iraq.

The implication was that somehow Iraq had afforded direct assistance 
to the people who attacked the United States on September 11, 2001. 
But there has been no proof that the mass-murdering perps of 9/11 
used Iraq to hide, plot or train. Even though Bush conceded in 
September that there was "no evidence" tying Hussein to 9/11, he 
still endeavors to draw a straight line from the 9/11 evildoers to 
Iraq.

 

He displayed a similar disingenuousness during his surprise, 150-
minute-long Thanksgiving Day visit to the American troops at the Bob 
Hope mess hall at the Baghdad airport. "You are," he told the 
GIs, "defeating the terrorists here in Iraq, so that we don't have 
to face them in our own country." That comment � which Bush had said 
previously � sure seemed designed to create the impression that the 
war in Iraq is about beating back al Qaeda, the only terrorists 
Americans have had to face in their "own country." In the weeks 
after Baghdad fell, reports out of Iraq raised the possibility that 
anti-American jihadists linked to or motivated by al Qaeda were 
pouring into Iraq to do battle with the United States. But a week 
before Bush told the troops they were battling "terrorists" in Iraq 
who might otherwise be gunning for their loved ones on the streets 
of America, two of Bush's top commanders in Iraq � Major General 
Charles Swannack Jr. and Major General David Petraeus � said that 
they had seen little sign that a significant number of al Qaeda 
loyalists or wannabes had flocked to Iraq. The enemy they are 
facing, the pair asserted, were mainly Baathist remnants. And there 
is no reason to believe these murderous thugs would be planning 
raids on domestic U.S. targets if the U.S. military were not chasing 
after them in Iraq.

So Bush tells us the ongoing war in Iraq is a strike against the 
forces that hit America on 9/11 and would do so again (were it not 
for the invasion of Iraq), and he proclaims the Taliban extinct. 
None of this is supported by the readily available information 
provided by the media or Bush's own military. Making such 
melodramatic and misleading claims may or may not be pathological, 
but it certainly isn't a sign that Bush has a healthy relationship 
with reality.









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