Hi Nansi,

So can you then enlighten us with regards to the integration between Rose
and Microsoft Visual Studio .NET ? (for unmanaged/managed C++??)

Thanks :-)

Regards

Arne Styve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stretcher, Nansi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 12:55 AM
> To: Keith Lancaster; Stretcher, Nansi; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: (ROSE) RE: XDE min platform for .Net
> 
> 
> 
> Keith,
>   You're just determined to test my knowledge aren't you.  ;-)
> Unfortunately, we don't really have a solid answer for you 
> for #1.  The
> reason that you are required to submit a PO to get your copy 
> of XDE is so
> that we can have a record of your receipt of the product.  
> This is required
> so that we can determine what to do about maintenance, which 
> will of course
> be required for future upgrades.  What we haven't exactly 
> figured out yet
> (or at least told the field) is what XDE maintenance is going 
> to be.  I'm
> not sure if it will be tied to your Rose maintenance or if it 
> will be a
> separate XDE maintenance.  The beauty of it is that we do 
> have a little
> while to decide.  Naturally, it's always best to stay current 
> on all of your
> maintenance.  :-)
> 
> I can do better for you for #2.  XDE is NOT a replacement for 
> Rose.  They
> are two separate visual modeling tools.  XDE is only appropriate for
> specific environments, Rose is the obvious choice if your environment
> doesn't match the requirements for XDE.  I was actually just 
> in a meeting
> today where the Rose development management reiterated their continued
> investment in the Rose product.
> 
> Regards,
>   Nansi
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Lancaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 9:39 AM
> To: Stretcher, Nansi; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: (ROSE) RE: XDE min platform for .Net
> 
> 
> Sorry if this has been covered someplace...
> After talking to my sales rep and ordering XDE (apparently I 
> can now get 2
> copies since I own a floating Rose license), I still have two main
> questions:
> 1) If I maintain my maintenace agreement on Rose, will I get 
> maintenance
> updates of XDE?
> 2) What is the game plan for XDE vs. Rose? Is XDE going to 
> REPLACE Rose?
> 
> Thanks,
> Keith Lancaster
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stretcher, Nansi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 2:43 PM
> To: Michael Thomas; Stretcher, Nansi; Styve, Arne;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: (ROSE) RE: XDE min platform for .Net
> 
> 
> 
> The XDE license is not tied in any way to your Rose license.  
> You are more
> than welcome to install your copy of XDE on a different 
> machine.  The only
> limitation is that you are to be the only one to use XDE.
> 
> Cheers,
>   Nansi
> 
> (ps) Just FYI, you can install VS6 and VS.Net on the same 
> machine.  They do
> play nicely together -- but that takes a pretty hefty machine.
> 
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Nansi Stretcher                                       (972) 473-5242
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> http://www.rational.com
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> www.rational.com/ruc
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:56 AM
> To: Stretcher, Nansi; Styve, Arne; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: XDE min platform for .Net
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm curious about the minimum software requirements to
> install XDE for .Net. Is the XDE tied in any way to my
> existing Rose EE node locked license and PC?
> 
> In other words, am I able to install a fresh PC with
> Windows 2000 and .Net, and then load the XDE without
> installing the Rose EE on the same PC?
> 
> I'm afraid we have many tool dependencies already with
> Visual Studio 6, and we really do not want to wipe out
> (for W2K and .Net) the PC with our Rose EE node locked
> license.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike Thomas
> 
> --- "Stretcher, Nansi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Arne,
> >   If you're familiar with Rational then you know
> > that we have a VERY STRICT
> > policy about announcing future capabilities.  As far
> > as support for C++ for
> > .NET all I can say is "We are committed to
> > supporting multiple .NET
> > languages, however we cannot say when or in what
> > order."
> > 
> >   For now, you have two options for C++.  You can
> > continue to use Rose to
> > model your C++, the unmanaged C++ should be the same
> > as your current C++.
> > You will not have a direct integration to VS.NET,
> > but you could use any VS6
> > integration that you are currently using.  Or, you
> > can use XDE to do your
> > modeling with what we call a 'content model'.  This
> > will give you full
> > modeling capabilities, just no RTE.
> > 
> > Regards,
> >   Nansi
> > 
> >
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Styve, Arne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:14 AM
> > To: Stretcher, Nansi; 'Michael Thomas'; Shyam
> > Nukala;
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: (ROSE) Re: 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Nansi,
> > 
> > And when will XDE be available for C++ in .NET
> > (unmanaged and managed C++) ?
> > 
> > And in the meantime, which UML-tool do you recomend
> > us to use for unmanaged
> > C++ in Microsoft Visual Studio .NET ?
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Arne Styve
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stretcher, Nansi
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 2:52 PM
> > > To: 'Michael Thomas'; Shyam Nukala;
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: (ROSE) Re: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > With a new product things do get confusing
> > sometimes.  We're 
> > > pretty excited
> > > about XDE and it's possibilities and so we'd like
> > to do what 
> > > we can to get
> > > the product out there and in your hands.  As such
> > we are 
> > > currently offering
> > > XDE licenses to owners of Rose Enterprise free of
> > charge.   
> > > The caveat is
> > > that you MUST be current on your maintenance of
> > Rose Enterprise.
> > > 
> > > If this is the case then you are entitled to one
> > (and 
> > > possibly two) licenses
> > > of XDE.  To get the license(s) please contact your
> > sales rep. 
> > >  You will be
> > > required to submit a PO (albeit for $0) and then
> > they can 
> > > ship the media.
> > > 
> > > Let me know if you have any more questions.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > >    Nansi
> > > 
> > >
> >
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> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Michael Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 3:26 PM
> > > To: Shyam Nukala; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: (ROSE) Re: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Thanks for asking this question. I've asked the
> > same.
> > > My experience was to be told by tech support the
> > XDE
> > > license only works if you bought XDE. Yet, we are
> > > entitled to XDE with Rose Enterprise and
> > maintenance. 
> > > 
> > > Basically this must mean that no-one knows the
> > > straight forward answer for existing users. Again,
> > > thanks for asking the question.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Mike
> > > --- Shyam Nukala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > I am currently working on Visual Studio
> > development
> > > > environment and thinking 
> > > > of moving to .Net platform. Looks like rose
> > > > enterprise addition currently 
> > > > doesn't support .Net. I was wondering if XDE is
> > free
> > > > for Rose enterprise 
> > > > users?
> > > > 
> > > > Shyam
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> >
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