Good morning,
I'd like to put these "process modeling" things in a "common sense" perspective. Let me start from the quote: "Any diagram is intimidating to the uninitiated, so it is extremely important that the diagram is as attractive as possible and that it conveys the sense of what is to be communicated. Of course, this (primarily) requires skill on the part of the diagrammer." http://www.BRCommunity.com/a2002/b117.html (It is interesting, that the author of this quotation is strongly against UML). Common sense should prevail. Show to me any model of the business process, and I will show to you how to built it with UML instruments (diagrams and use cases). Rose and ReqPro quite sufficient for business process modeling. The only thing they would not do for you is a process simulation (if you ever need it). The rest is just usual groups-interest-serving dogs struggle under the rug. And if you would like your business clients to like your diagrams - develop your diagramming skills and build a good ones (see quotation above). Otherwise, no tool and no notation will ever help ... Happy modeling. David Lyalin -----Original Message----- From: Srinidhi Boray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 5:22 PM To: Brian McCarthy; 'Richard A. Menard' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: (ROSE) Process Modeling? Hi, To add to the muddle!!! Every time I hear process analysis, process modeling etc and anything related to processes, I realize that what one is really talking about is 'one instance' of the processes. If one intends to model one instance of a process then one may choose whatever on earth to depict pictorially that instance. Process modeling is lot more than mere representation as a 2d diagram. Process model is manifold more than just a mere event flow diagram. Process model is a depiction of the dynamic functioning of an enterprise as a cumulation of several processes utilizing numerous resources and horizontally streaking through organized set of functional units and each achieving a specific set of business objective and adding up to fulfill the bigger business goal. By employing the resources various constraints are overcome. Business goals are always accompanied by problems/constraints. The process model depicting the whole truth of an enterprise results into a matrix set of resources and each uniquely aiding in the efficient flow of the events (or threads of processes), overcoming problems as much as possible. To model such a process flow more holistic tools such as those based on Enterprise Architecture framework such as Zachman is required. Rose at the moment does not offer such a facility and it is severely lacking in capacity to capture the enterprise architecture as a holistic relational model. Hope this helps!!:) Srinidhi Hope this helps!!:) Srinidhi __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com ************************************************************************ * Rose Forum is a public venue for ideas and discussions. * For technical support, visit http://www.rational.com/support * * Post or Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Subscription Requests: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Archive of messages: * http://www.rational.com/support/usergroups/rose/rose_forum.jsp * Other Requests: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To unsubscribe from the list, please send email * To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Subject: <BLANK> * Body: unsubscribe rose_forum ************************************************************************* ************************************************************************ * Rose Forum is a public venue for ideas and discussions. * For technical support, visit http://www.rational.com/support * * Post or Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Subscription Requests: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Archive of messages: * http://www.rational.com/support/usergroups/rose/rose_forum.jsp * Other Requests: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To unsubscribe from the list, please send email * To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Subject: <BLANK> * Body: unsubscribe rose_forum *************************************************************************
