Silvan wrote:
>
>> Well, bear in mind that you're probably using examples that don't
>> render correctly in Rosegarden either.  Rosegarden is just more
>> content to render wrongly than Lilypond is.
>
> Much of the time, that's true, but even when it looks OK, it often
> comes out borked.

Do you mean looks OK in Rosegarden?

My point really was that very often it looks OK because Rosegarden
fudges the wrongness for you, in a way that is superficially
presentable but not actually correct.

For example, you once sent me a test file which had an arpeggiated
guitar line in one segment, and you noted that it wasn't rendering
to Lilypond correctly.  But it wasn't rendering in Rosegarden
correctly either!  Rosegarden was just attempting to get away with
its inability to resolve these apparently overlapping chords by
sticking in overlong notes and rests at the same time, to try to
suggest that the following note started before the current one
ended.  The result didn't look too messy, but if you tried to play
from it you'd almost certainly get the wrong number of beats in
your bar.  Applying de-counterpoint sorted that out but made the
whole thing look far more complicated.

The first exercise for something like that is to look at the raw
notes (in matrix or raw note ruler) and try to work out how you
think it actually should be notated.  Very often it's not as
obvious as you might expect, and it's quite understandable that
Rosegarden or Lilypond might have problems.  In the case of a
simple arpeggiated guitar line recorded from a MIDI guitar or
something (*cough* Stairway to Heaven *cough*) we do have at least
one option open to us: the notation quantizer could do a much better
job if it knew that the notes were "ringing" and that it could
safely shorten them harshly when they overlapped, rather than
assuming (as it does now) that the performed notes were more likely
to be too short than too long.  That all depends on the instrument,
of course.


Chris



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