Chris Cannam wrote:
On Saturday 12 Nov 2005 02:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Silvan wrote:
Nothing can help grow a testing community quite like providing
snapshot binaries.

We've never found the resources to provide _release_ binaries -- how are we ever going to provide snapshot ones? Admittedly the effort is probably only about the same, but even so.

Automation! Set up a process. Doing so can help speed the release process because packages are being tested throughout the whole development cycle, ie. the package problems are gone when the release comes around. I can't give appropriate links right now because SF is sketchy, but for example you may want to look at the Bleeding-Edge Inkscape Fatory (BEIF) and the new in development testing framework Crucible as examples of how we automate things.

Inkscape has been using Autopackage <http://autopackage.org/>

And how do they find it? In particular, do they get a lot of reports of problems with the packages themselves that have to be resolved?

Yeah, when the new guy (me) started making packages there was a host of problems because he had no clue what he was doing. But as problems are reported, they get fixed. And I think the packages are pretty solid right now.

I'd try out their package, except that Autopackage packages always seem to bugger up my Debian menus and I've never yet seen one actually work, so I'm rather reluctant, but perhaps I've been unlucky.

Oh, I'm sure all those problems have been resolved by now, because you've taken the time to report them to the developers. ;)

The last thing I want to embark on is the work of producing packages using a new format none of us is familiar with that none of us would normally use (and therefore feel comfortable testing) and then find they only work for one user in five anyway. And Rosegarden's about as tough as it gets to package. Although if someone did the work, we could certainly have a look.

I think I'd like to get Mike Hearn from Autopackage to take a look at Rosegarden and see if he would be interested in helping me get an autopackage working. If nothing else I know the Autopackage guys are always up for a challenge. :)

Aaron Spike


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