On Monday 26 September 2011 14:35:25 D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> On Monday, September 26, 2011, Niek van den Berg wrote:
> > measure 7. This what I ment by "real" repeats. Every part shows a repeat
> > start and end at the same location in the part.
> 
> We do have support for those, through segment repeats, at least to a limited
> extent.  It is also possible to do 1 and 2 endings, but this is very crude.

And well hidden? I haven't find yet (maybe I should read your manual again :-) 
)

> 
> Come to think of it, Niek, I need to step back and see how things have
> changed after Yves did his work on the anacrusis problem before I try to
> explain this to you.  Some things may have changed.

I think the current approach by writing out the repetitions is a good option 
for now. Implementing repeats can be implemented in a leter version.

> We don't have the % measure repeat at all, no.  I seem to remember there's
> another kind of repeat too, maybe //, and we don't have that one either.
> These are rarely encountered in trumpet music anyway, and I haven't missed
> them.

It seems the are rarely nowadays indeed. I can remember these kind of 
repetitions a very old editions of marches published 50 to 60 years ago. 
Usually such repetition ment a very dull part....

> 
> In any case, the problems we have with repeats and flow control in general
> come from being a sequencer under the hood, rather than a notation editor.
> It's much more complicated trying to make things like 1-2 endings, coda,
> segno, DC, DS, etc. work inside a sequencer.  That's why all of those things
> are faked out, and don't work properly, or at all.  The time axis is
> completely linear and only moves one way in Rosegarden, 

That's why writing out repetitions was an obvious choice to me.

> 
> We tried to figure out how to get flow control to jump around in Rosegarden
> too, but we came away with numb minds, and a desire to run away and forget
> about it.  It is one of those things that seems just possible, but it's so
> ridiculously complicated as to make one bleed out the ears thinking about
> it. It's the one truly monumental obstacle to trying to do a full-bodied
> notation editor on top of a sequencer, instead of just working in notation
> and generating MIDI on the fly at playback time the way all the real score
> editors do.

Sounds as another challenge :-)

Best regards, Niek

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