There are other business scenarios that a claim might be rejected that
the CH would have to get additional info from the provider for example
a non-covered procedure.  I would think it would be easier for everyone
if the claims were spit apart by provider in this scenario.
Dave Frenkel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: William J. Kammerer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: WEDi/SNIP ID & Routing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 4:38 PM
Subject: Clearinghouse Aggregation and the ID and Routing Problem


> See Kepa's posting to HIPPAlive of Wednesday, 26 December, 2001.  In
> order to save you the trouble of searching through the archives, I've
> attached the e-mail.
> 
> In Kepa's aggregation scenario, the provider(s) are not using HIPAA
> compliant transactions - and therefore would not be able to accept a 997
> (or 824 or whatever) even if the CH could discern which provider was
> responsible for dirty data (thus causing the payer to reject the entire
> aggregated 837).
> 
> But in any event, I would expect the CH to always supply HIPAA compliant
> data even if the claim were aggregated from hundreds of claims from
> different providers.  The CH *is* responsible for HIPAA compliant data -
> the little, innocent provider is paying the CH to be insulated from the
> complexity of EDI and HIPAA standard transactions. If the CH were to
> send non-compliant data (if only within one claim within hundreds of
> otherwise valid claims), the payer will send back an 824 (if one is ever
> devised) and the CH will have to work back from the technical error data
> to come up with the provider in question, so the errant provider's claim
> can be suspended without holding up the others.
> 
> If a CH can't solve this problem on its own, it  will just have to send
> one 837 for each provider - one of the options Kepa suggested.  Would it
> really be any but the payer's problem if the payer's translator could
> not handle the increased number of ST-SE pairs?  In either case (whether
> aggregated or split per provider), as the intermediary, the CH is the
> ISA sender (or receiver) - it's up to the CH to look inside the
> transaction to see who the pay-to provider is.
> 
> Is Kepa's scenario an ID or routing problem we have to worry about?
> 
> William J. Kammerer
> Novannet, LLC.
> 
> 

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