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Cory,
 
So, out of curiosity on a Friday, what methods and/or routings of communications do you think would satisfy the real time requirements of the 270/271, 276/277, and 278 Implementation Guides?
 
Also, would you be measuring the complete end-to-end [i.e., start-of-communications to payer processing through end-of-communications] time, or just the turn-around time on the payer processing system once a message is received?
 
                    Dave Feinberg
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 4:38 PM
Subject: RE: Route through email and attach EDI files

I'd think that e-mail is one viable mechanism for a small-volume batch arrangement.  We plan to use it as such with at least one TP.
 
However, I suspect that e-mail falls well short of the "2 to 30-seconds" definition for real-time [4010X092 270/271 IG; page 14, 4th paragraph, "Real Time Transactions ... should not exceed one minute"], and it probably represents a dis-incentive if the payer also supports a real-time Web or DDE interface.
 
I'd say "close ... but no cigar" as a complete HIPAA routing solution.
 
                                                -Cory

Cory Dekker
GWL-EBIS HIPAA Project Analyst
303/737-2022 or 303/522-8804 (Cell)

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Scholl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:39 PM
To: WEDi/SNIP ID & Routing
Subject: Route through email and attach EDI files

After following the discussion now for a few months I begin to believe that we have not solved routing, one of the most basic issues of EDI. All this talk about CPP and ebXML makes my head spin; and to be honest, having my hands full with transaction sets, I don't see myself studying now XML too.
 
Why don't we use email as the preferred mode of routing?
 
This would solve most problems.
  • email is secure.  Encrypting email with PGP, Pretty Good Privacy is cheap, proven and common place
  • Attachments can be relatively large, mega bytes if need be and numerous too
  • routing of email is long solved and works great as we all know
  • Identifiers are left between you and your trading partner.  We don't have to invent or find a unique ID as long it is 15 digits long.
  • virus filters and such are widely available and HIPAA Security can be attained at low costs
  • By having a robot check the inbox every minute or so, "realtime" or something reasonably close to that can be achieved.
  • TA1, 997,271,277 ..... are send back as an attachment
  • You can also send back the detailed analysis information.  EDI compliance checker software produces verbose output and when you send that back in the body of the email to the message provider, you can give near instant feedback and go through the training and testing phase faster.
  • Off course, if you need to submit 10gig of EDI to CMS, this does not work, but for the traffic between providers and payers, email would solve the routing question
I just started to test my payer oriented software with a provider software house in India.  We tried ftp and were frustrated. We were fighting firewall issues, I had power outages and my server was down, my IP lease expired and India is about 12 hours ahead of me so that we could never communicate in real time.  Moving the communications over to email solved all these problems and now we can concentrate on transaction set issues.
 
My 2cents
 
Martin Scholl
Scholl Consulting Group, Inc.
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