Would it still hold if a user is having the equivalent of
r('dollar <- funtion(...) "oops" ')
at some point in his/her code ?


L.





Warnes, Gregory R. wrote:
> OK, if 'dollar' is simply an alias for the function name "$", then
> that seems like it is a reasonable approach...
> 
> However, I would implement this in R by defining an R function named
> dollar in an R package, rather than having rpy2 do a translation.
> 
> The current approach effectively blocks users from access data
> objects named 'dollar' via the r.dollar syntax.  If dollar was a
> function defined as
> 
> dollar <- .Primitive("$")
> 
> Then the current syntax would continue to work, while still allowing
> a user to do
> 
> r("dollar <- 1")
> 
> in which case
> 
> r.dollar
> 
> would return the R vector containing 1, and
> 
> stackloss.r.dollar("Air.Flow")
> 
> would still work, too.
> 
> 
> -Greg
> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: n...@vorpus.org
>> [mailto:n...@vorpus.org] On Behalf Of Nathaniel Smith Sent:
>> Thursday, October 01, 2009 4:15 PM To: Warnes, Gregory R. Cc: RPy
>> help,support and design discussion list Subject: Re: [Rpy]
>> na.action?
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Warnes, Gregory R. 
>> <gregory.war...@rochester.edu> wrote:
>>> These are the longstanding rpy rules (where 'x' represents any
>> sequence
>>> of valid name character in *python*, including A-Z, a-Z anywhere
>>> and
>> 0-9
>>> anywhere except in the first position):
>>> 
>>> python  R               Example x_x             x.x
>>> print_default(m) --> print.default(m) x_              x
>>> print_(m) --> print(m)
>> Heh -- convergent evolution, then, since I never actually used 
>> "classic" rpy.
>> 
>>> However, the (proposed?) translation of 'dollar' to '$' seems 
>>> problematic to me, since the string/word 'dollar' can reasonably
>>> be expected to appear in variable names.
>>> 
>>> What do you have in mind for that?
>> NB: I just double-checked the code, and it's specifically if the
>> name equals "dollar" exactly then it is translated to "$" -- names
>> that merely contain "dollar" as a substring are unaffected.
>> 
>> I think this meets the definition of a "miswart": 
>> http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/mi/miswart.html it's ugly
>> looking, but in practice the ability to conveniently access columns
>> from data frames, etc., outweighs the ugliness. (Of course, if 
>> anyone has an even *better* idea for how to do this, I'd love to
>> hear it. Typing "dollar" is somewhat ridiculous. I just couldn't
>> deal with typing r["$"] all the time for such a fundamental
>> operation.)
>> 
>> The way it looks in practice: R: stackloss$Air.Flow Python
>> (rnumpy-style): stackloss.r.dollar("Air.Flow")
>> 
>> -- Nathaniel
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