Hello Bill 

Thank you for a good and concise summary of the various strategies for
routing scalability.

Related to your question about other BGP solutions, I am wondering how
well strategy D covers the proposals by Paul Francis and others:

- mapped BGP and
- virtual aggregation.

The former requires some extensions to BGP, in terms of announcing the
proper attributes for the maps and also its own RIBs. Rephrasing
strategy D to "Use plain old BGP with extensions" would capture the
mentioned BGP based solutions as well. (Notice that Paul's presentation
in the last meeting starts with "tries to minimize changes to BGP", is
not the same as "use the old BGP".)

Best regards
Hannu  

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>Behalf Of ext William Herrin
>Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 17:33
>To: Ross Callon
>Cc: RRG
>Subject: Re: [rrg] Consensus call: Reject proposed strategy F?
>
>On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Ross Callon 
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > I say we should tell the folks in GROW that it's time to stop 
>>> > seriously entertaining the idea that vanilla BGP 
>(strategy F) will 
>>> > work out ok. What do you say?
>>>
>>> Firstly, given that there are useful things to do with BGP, 
>that will 
>>> extend its life, I don't think it would at all be 
>appropriate to tell 
>>> GROW not to put energy into engineering improvements.
>>
>> I agree with Joel that it would be seriously inappropriate to tell 
>> GROW (or IDR) to stop thinking about engineering improvements to BGP.
>
>
>Ross,
>
>Are there BGP improvements for which consideration is ripe, 
>yet which aren't described in the solutions summary? They 
>should have been mentioned in the months this document was 
>open to casual additions but for the rest of this week I'm 
>willing to cut a little slack.
>
>Strategy F is not "continue researching BGP improvements." 
>Strategy F is "BGP is good enough already."
>
>Do you accept the claim that BGP can be expected to remain 
>viable for the foreseeable future even if none of the 
>improvements we've considered pan out? If not, you should 
>reject strategy F.
>
>Regards,
>Bill Herrin
>
>
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