On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Tony Li <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Chris,
>
>>> I believe that Patrick is asking about outbound traffic routing, not
>>> inbound.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, until we are prepared to make a much larger set of changes,
>>> we do not have the tools to allow a host to choose which outbound site
>>> connection is used by the hosts outbound traffic.  (There are many use cases
>>> which would like those capabilities, but we have not found a good way to
>>> deliver them.)
>>
>> I was under the impression that ILNP would permit the site border
>> routers to change the locator bits on exit. This means the network
>> devices and the hosts have to agree on the set of locators they all
>> can use. This also means that the network path betwen host -> border
>> has to do some internal TE such that when on exit path is 'bad'
>> traffic naturally flows toward an alternate path internally toward a
>> 'better' exit path.
>
>
> You are correct, ILNP allows the site border routers to change the locator
> on exit.
>
> However, what Patrick is asking is for something even stronger, which is
> outbound exit selection by the host.  Most likely, this would imply routing

oh, yuck :)

> towards the specific exit based on the packet's source locator in addition
> to the destination locator.  This is not part of the base ILNP spec as it
> exists today.

well, does it need to be? If the host puts a src-locator on the packet
it creates it's up to the network/host folks to agree to src-route or
agree to get overwritten. (Is the 'TE' at the whim of the host or the
network? This sounds like shim6 discussions, to me)

>
>> If the above all works, then the borders simple swap locator bits as
>> appropriate on exit... easy, peasy.
>
>
> In Patrick's scenario, swapping is not necessary, as the 'correct' exit has
> been selected already.

ok.

>
> In fact, locator swapping is necessary in all OTHER scenarios, as the exit
> border router will need to ensure that all packets exiting to a given ISP
> have a valid locator for that ISP, to insure that the ISP's RPF or other
> filtering succeeds.

right, if uRPF is being used, I agree here. (I do hope it IS in use...
but not everyone does this)

> Regards,
> Tony

thanks, as always :)
-chris
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