I think bundling/recommending/depending on a mock framework gives you the same comfort and saves a lot of development time :D
-chris On 9/6/07, Christopher D. Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's the rationale behind removing the integrated mocking framework? Can > you not still use Mocha or FlexMock or whatever else you'd like to use > still? Meanwhile, the integrated mocking framework in RSpec provides a ready > and able mocking framework for anyone just starting out with RSpec. In my > experience, people are more apt to begin to use a new thing if it's already > there waiting for them. > > Chris Pratt > > > On 9/6/07, Christoph Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 9/5/07, Steven R. Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Wilson Bilkovich wrote: > > > > On 9/5/07, Christoph Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > >> One thing is clear, mocha is much nicer than the integrated mocking, > > > >> nicer syntax, better errormessages, better everything. The rspec > > > >> mocking framework could never compete with mocha or flexmock on its > > > >> own. At the time it was created there were good reasons for that, > just > > > >> like there are good reasons to deprecate it now. > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > I would be 100% OK with this for version 1.1 or 1.2 or whatever, as > > > > long as Mocha was the only 'recommendation', and the rspec gem had a > > > > listed gem dependency on Mocha. > > > > It's the 'choice' I object to, not the specifics of which mock > > > > framework we happen to use. > > > > > > > To clarify, you just want a default mock framework, instead of being > > > forced to make the decision yourself? > > > > > > > Ok, I am in no way saying anything against flexmock, Its probably > > great, but I never tried it. What I tried was rspec mocking and mocha, > > and I liked mocha much better. > > > > And I do think there should be a default, for the generated code. > > > > regards > > chris > > _______________________________________________ > > rspec-users mailing list > > rspec-users@rubyforge.org > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > rspec-users mailing list > rspec-users@rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ rspec-users mailing list rspec-users@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users