On Jun 14, 2008, at 1:23 PM, aidy lewis wrote:

Hi David,

On 14/06/2008, David Chelimsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Jun 14, 2008, at 12:50 PM, aidy lewis wrote:

Hi,

Is the Given, When, Then framework, the user story, the acceptance
criteria or both?

From my talk at railsconf:
http://en.oreilly.com/rails2008/public/schedule/detail/2055


=============================================
Story: measure progress towards registration goals
 As a conference organizer
 I want to see a report of registrations
 So that I can measure progress towards registration goals

 Scenario: one registration shows as 1%
   Given a goal of 200 registrations
   When 1 attendee registers
   Then the goal should be 1% achieved

 Scenario: one registration less than the goal shows as 99%
   Given a goal of 200 registrations
   When 199 attendees register
   Then the goal should be 99% achieved
=============================================

The story and the text before the first scenario is the User Story as we've
always known it in XP.

The Scenarios are automated, and represent acceptance criteria.

Make sense?

Cheers,
David


Certainly does. I am automating the tests (only tester on my project),
but I have asked the BA's not only to write the story then, but also
give the scenarios. I do a lot of re-work on the story though.

Should I just be asking just for the story and for me to add the tests
(Given, When, Then)

I also asked them for negative scenarios.

The ideal situation is that you and the BA's sit down together to work this out. The goal here is group communication rather than one role owning part of the communication.

Short of that, there is no one right way to do this. Perhaps they provide stories, you add scenarios as demonstration, they add more scenarios for thoroughness, etc.

What is a "negative scenario"?
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