On Oct 30, 2008, at 2:17 AM, David Chelimsky wrote:
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Scott Taylor
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Oct 30, 2008, at 2:01 AM, Sebastian W. wrote:
Hi Scott,
Cool - I see what you're saying here. The only thing that I'm a bit
confused still is that it seems like, at least if your system is
starting to get larger, you'd really *want* your fast unit test to
help
you catch API changes like this to help you make updates faster.
Having to run a suite of more expensive integration tests just to
catch
API changes seems a little funny. But I guess I'm also hoping that
there's some way for the mocks to help with that sort of thing -
it's my
understanding that some other frameworks out there help you with
that
sort of stuff. One example mentioned to me was JMock -- granted,
that's
Java, but still - if it's possible in Java, Ruby should be able to
do it
too. :P
Most certainly.
David, et. all:
Why don't we have a partial mock which will raise an error (or at
least a
warning) when stubbing an object who's class doesn't respond_to?
the method
given? I feel like this sort of simple dependency has been brought
up 1000
times on the list before, but never been explicitly stated.
WDYT?
This has come up before.
The problem is that we're dealing with a dynamic language and the
class definition may or may not include the definition of that method
at the point that the mock framework would do such an evaluation,
especially if thing are getting mocked that might otherwise be loading
modules and extending behaviour.
I'd rather have it be a known problem, but a consistent problem, then
a partially solved problem that will inevitably cause more pain that
it does today :)
Actually, I take back my previous comment. Where would you stub a
method on an object where the method *isn't* even loaded by further
(or previous) stubbing?
In Rails, at least, it's those damn class-macro type things which do
all the method loading, but those are never stubbed out (they can't
be, since the code needs to be loaded first).
Any concrete examples come to mind?
Scott
Cheers,
David
Scott
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