[Rswg] Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-rswg-authoring-ethics-01.txt

[Eliot Lear]

Fair enough, but EKR raises a good point: what level of detail must an acknowledgment be?  And there's another question: what happens if someone doesn't want to be acknowledged at all?

Eliot

On 08.06.2026 13:41, Scott Bradner wrote:

an example - RFC 2149

7 Acknowledgements

    We would like to acknowledge Grenville Armitage (Bellcore) for
    reviewing the document and suggesting improvements towards
    simplifying the multiple MCS functionalities.  Discussion with Joel
    Halpern (Newbridge) helped clarify the multiple MCS problem.  Anthony
    Gallo (IBM RTP) pointed out security issues that are not adequately
    addressed in the current document.  Arvind Murching (Microsoft)
    flagged a potential show stopper in section 4.1.2.

(there are rather many more)

On Jun 8, 2026, at 7:35 AM, Eric Rescorla<e...@rtfm.com> wrote:



On Sun, Jun 7, 2026 at 5:35 PM Scott Bradner<s...@sobco.com> wrote:

On Jun 7, 2026, at 7:52 PM, Eric Rescorla<e...@rtfm.com> wrote:
1. This text is purely about contributors duty to the IETF, not about what 
appears in RFCs. It's entirely consistent with this text for an RFC to contain 
no acknowledgements of any names besides the author, even if all the work is 
from others. So, at most this would require indivian example - RFC 21duals to 
identify AI assistance at the time of contribution.

huh

the rule says "The Contribution properly acknowledges all Contributors"  - i.e
text in the contribution lists the contributors - unless the text is remove it 
would
appear in the RFC (and this editor of the rule expects that to be the case)

I think this is overreading the text quite a bit, but perhaps it would be
more useful to try a worked example. For example, RFC 5378 itself
has the following acknowledgement: The editors would like to acknowledge the 
help the IETF IPR Working
Group provided during the development of the document.
I take it you believe that this is an acceptable acknowledgement, even
though it does not list any person by name? What level of contribution
do you believe would require someone to be named individually?

-Ekr

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