Just FYI folks. I am now switching to a 6w cycle. Expect blog posts to come
up.  The next release will be 8.6.0 stable, based on 8.5.0. I've also done
a little bit of calendar lookup. I don't like to start a new release cycle
method with an exception, and I don't do releases before the xmas holiday
period. As such, we will have the following upcoming release dates:

8.6.0: 2014-12-02
8.6.1: 2015-01-13

Just so that you know.

Adiscon will probably post non-project, adiscon-specific interim releases
to the Adiscon repositories. This is because we need to deliver
fixes&enhancements to support customers in package form (for the paying
customers, it's not an option to build from source). Just think of the
Adiscon packages in the same way now like you do about RH, Debian or Ubuntu
packages. The Adiscon repositories will remain open to everyone.

I also continue to setup more testbench machines.

Rainer

2014-10-31 12:56 GMT+01:00 singh.janmejay <[email protected]>:

> +1 for 6w
>
> --
> Regards,
> Janmejay
>
> PS: Please blame the typos in this mail on my phone's uncivilized soft
> keyboard sporting it's not-so-smart-assist technology.
>
> On Oct 31, 2014 4:07 PM, "Rainer Gerhards" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > 2014-10-31 11:01 GMT+01:00 David Lang <[email protected]>:
> >
> > > On Fri, 31 Oct 2014, Rainer Gerhards wrote:
> > >
> > >  2014-10-31 0:38 GMT+01:00 David Lang <[email protected]>:
> > >>
> > >>  On Thu, 30 Oct 2014, Rainer Gerhards wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>> +1 for a time-based release approach.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>  I am not sure if David and you talked about the same thing. If I
> > >>>> understood
> > >>>> David correctly (please correct me if I am wrong), he says that we
> > >>>> release
> > >>>> versions (88 to avoid confusion with existing versions), e.g.
> 88.6.1,
> > >>>> 88.6.2, 88.6.3, 88.6.x whenever they are ready. However, every 6
> month
> > >>>> we
> > >>>> would begin a new series, e.g. 88.7.1. From then on, only 88.7 is
> > >>>> updated.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>> I'm actually thinking of the kernel model
> > >>>
> > >>> every X months release 88.7, 88.8, 88.9, etc. If there are bugfixes
> > that
> > >>> need to go out between the X month releases, they become 88.7.1
> 88.7.2
> > >>> etc.
> > >>> 3-6 months seems to work fairly well for individual projects. In
> > between
> > >>> people can just compile from the master. I don't think we have enough
> > >>> testing participation to go the -rcX route.
> > >>>
> > >>> If there is a major (risky) change, it would justify an 89 release,
> but
> > >>> that would end up being something like a re-write of the queue model
> or
> > >>> other very intrusive (and therefor risky) change, not the ongoing
> > >>> features,
> > >>> modules, performance optimizations.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>  mmhh... isn't that -except for the timing- what we do with the
> current
> > >> -devel/-stable just in other terms? I agree that terms are important
> but
> > >> should we than name the master branch releases as stable and the
> monthly
> > >> as
> > >> "old stable". Also, I have the impression that with the kernel almost
> > >> everyone uses the bi-annually releases (in our words the -stable) and
> > not
> > >> the master.
> > >>
> > >> If I am not wrong, that model would probably result in the same
> problem,
> > >> that is I develop new things in master branch, but everyone begins to
> > >> "test" them when it is rolled into the bi-annually releases.
> > >>
> > >
> > > The releases don't need to be bi-annual, there are advantages to
> shorter
> > > cycles.
> > >
> > > People do need some stability in what's shipped, so they really aren't
> > > going to be running things from git. So the question is, "how quickly
> can
> > > you release things without annoying people too much?"
> > >
> > > for the kernel, they are making new releases about every 2.5-3 months.
> > > Firefox is making releases about every 6 weeks. I don't remember what
> > > Chrome's cycle is like, but it's also rapid.
> > >
> > >
> > So how about every 6 weeks for rsyslog? On that cycle, bug reports would
> > still hit me with a relatively fresh idea of what I changed.
> >
> > Rainer
> >
> >
> > > People are going to start off being afraid of new releases, but they
> seem
> > > to accept them if they don't have frequent regressions. They also seem
> > far
> > > more afraid of changing major versions than minor versions (and even
> > there,
> > > firefox and chrome are getting people to accept that)
> > >
> > >
> > > Today we have the master tree, -devel releases, -stable releases, and
> > > bugfix releases.
> > >
> > > I'm saying that we would have the master tree, -stable releases, and
> > > occasional bugfix releases (the bugfixes would only fix regressions
> that
> > > were missed)
> > >
> > >
> > > David Lang
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