Sorry, I missed the documentation patch somehow. Thanks for correcting.

I don't like 'or' because that is exactly what multiple rules with same
prefix do.

It's a little more verbose, but much more readable too.

I don't think introducing multiple ways of doing the same thing is a good
idea.

--
Regards,
Janmejay

PS: Please blame the typos in this mail on my phone's uncivilized soft
keyboard sporting it's not-so-smart-assist technology.

On Jan 27, 2015 11:43 AM, "Chris Schafer" <[email protected]> wrote:

> @Janmejay:
> I'll be honest - I <strike>don't</strike> didn't know if it'll handle
> escape sequences. I didn't test it earlier, just tested it now. Totally
> worked, woo!
> I did put in documentation - you can check the file. Actually included a
> little bugfix on existing documentation that kept it from compiling as
> well.
> I'm not against putting tests in at all, though I didn't because I didn't
> see any tests for the non-special functions, only regex and tokenization. I
> can throw them in. What I did do is test this against a couple thousand log
> lines that I actually needed to parse, just to make sure it worked.
>
> On Mon Jan 26 2015 at 10:01:21 PM Kendall Green <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > I like the 'or' option, precisely for doing type check condition when a
> > whole lot of fields exists in records. This is currently cumbersome and
> > quickly becomes a daunting mess of a Cartesian Product set rule base for
> > all the combination of fields that could have single values unquoted, or
> > possibly quoted. Not to mention how this use case caries over to other
> > scenarios where an or operation would be invaluable to type casting.
> >
> > %<tag>:<type>:or:<type>%
> > could be very useful, not just to solve the issue of which behavior
> should
> > be default, as it would be set by the syntax.
> >
> > For example, if type quoted-string is set first, then should check
> without
> > quotes up to space.
> > Wouldn't the default be for what the type is, so with quoted-string, then
> > it's quoted, unless an 'or' condition exists for an alternate expected
> data
> > type.
> >
> > With so very many fields in verbose messages, it is great to have a
> single
> > rule which would otherwise be an exponentially lengthy ruleset to
> > accommodate all the possible known type setting combinations.
> > %Description:quoted-string:or:word%
> >
> > An ''type:or:type" option could also be useful in other cases where
> > unpopulated fields exists with a default type value which doesn't match
> the
> > field when populated with specific typed value.
> >
> > %IP Address:ipv4:or:word%
> > The IP Address is provided, or a hyphen exists in the field when
> > unpopulated. In this scenario more specific literal matching would also
> be
> > nice option, which please correct me if literals already exists beyond
> > annotations. Having a char type match as char-sep somewhat resembles,
> where
> > field extraction only when the literal matches. The difference being that
> > the literal would be matched for field value not just up to that
> position.
> > To give a more strict rule:
> > %IP Address:ipv4:or:char:\x2d%
> >
> > Similarly, it would be good to have string type, like described for the
> > purposed char type above, but for capturing the string literal instead of
> > only the literal char. Rulebase could use string parse
> > enhancement with capture of literal string at specific field start
> > position within rulebase, since existing features could likely be used
> like
> > annotation fields. Additionally, please inform of any contributions for
> > the discussion regarding data type of fields to match string as a
> > string-to, as char-to / char-sep feature of char
> > separator on string, like the function, field($!path, string-or-char).
>  So
> > please also elaborate on what has already been done for rulebase matching
> > string literals. Thanks!
> >
> > -Kendall
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:49 PM, David Lang <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't like the "or" option as I think it makes the rules harder to
> > read.
> > > unless you are doing this on a lot of fields in a line, just make a new
> > > line with the different type.
> > >
> > > We need feedback from others, but at the very least I think making this
> > an
> > > option to the standard quoted-string type would be better than a new
> type
> > > (the question is if this should be enabled by default or disabled by
> > > default)
> > >
> > >
> > > David Lang
> > >
> > > On Tue, 27 Jan 2015, Chris Schafer wrote:
> > >
> > >  It comes back as a full fail. I thought about modifying that, but I
> > didn't
> > >> want to wreck anything currently in place.
> > >> A coworker of mine had a great idea for an "or" ability, going
> > >> %tag:or:quoted-string:word% where i attempts the first, and if that
> > fails,
> > >> goes to the second. However, that's not going to be easy, and I wanted
> > to
> > >> push this change before you guys got too many commits ahead.
> > >>
> > >> On Mon Jan 26 2015 at 4:43:02 PM David Lang <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  hmm, I'm wondering if we should do this for the normal quoted type?
> If
> > >>> you
> > >>> say
> > >>> quoted string and there isn't a quote does it just not match?
> > >>>
> > >>> David Lang
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, 27 Jan 2015, Chris Schafer wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>  This only handles " because that's what the current quoted string
> > does.
> > >>>> If it doesn't start with ", it implements the "word" functionality
> > >>>>
> > >>> (which I
> > >>>
> > >>>> shamelessly copied). The idea is to capture inputs where the source
> > >>>>
> > >>> system
> > >>>
> > >>>> only quotes it if it contains a space, but leaves it unquoted
> > otherwise.
> > >>>> Example:
> > >>>> No data = -
> > >>>> One Word = word
> > >>>> Two words+ = "Two Words"
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The function should handle all three.
> > >>>> Chris
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Mon Jan 26 2015 at 4:36:25 PM David Lang <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  does this handle embedded quotes in the string? and do you handle
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> strings
> > >>>
> > >>>> starting with ' and " or just one of them?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> David Lang
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Tue, 27 Jan 2015, Chris Schafer wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>  Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 00:30:54 +0000
> > >>>>>> From: Chris Schafer <[email protected]>
> > >>>>>> Reply-To: rsyslog-users <[email protected]>
> > >>>>>> To: [email protected]
> > >>>>>> Subject: [rsyslog] New Pull request for liblognorm - additional
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> mmnormalize
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>     functionality
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Just submitted the following pull request:
> > >>>>>> https://github.com/rsyslog/liblognorm/pull/20
> > >>>>>> And I believe it could solve a lot of issues (at least, it solves
> a
> > >>>>>> lot
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> of
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> mine) surrounding mmnormalize parsing in rsyslog. I'm looking for
> > >>>>>> comments/issues/holy-crap-you-can't-code-what-are-you-doing, if
> you
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> guys
> > >>>
> > >>>> have any. This is my first time submitting a patch to a large
> project
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> (or
> > >>>
> > >>>> at least one where I didn't know the maintainer personally), so be
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> gentle
> > >>>
> > >>>> please :)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Chris
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