Thanks for the feedback! I'll try to help fix doc issues, should the opportunity arise.
Flo On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 4:14 PM Rainer Gerhards <[email protected]> wrote: > El lun., 26 nov. 2018 a las 10:28, Flo Rance (<[email protected]>) > escribió: > > > > It would have been hard for me to figure out that, thanks. > > Full ACK! That's why I try to monitor as much of the questions as possible > ;-) > > And don't get me wrong: I really appreciate the work that you put into > helping others. It's most useful. > > But in general it would be beneficial if those small things that can > make life hard be fixed by those that notice it. We get some (very > useful) small doc contributions, but the number of folks just writing > "this is bad" vs. actually doing that small fix is frustrating. Even > more so some regular users who always ask for help, intensely, but > never ever give something back to the project. I admit I have set an > ignore flag for most of them. > > Looking at the current PR, for example, it now has the facts but > leaves the doc once more inconsistent: one place is fixed, the other > one (property replacer) not. In an ideal world, some of them > complaining that the doc is so hard to use would step in and fix that > [and for sure I do NOT mean you!]. > > Just to clarify a bit. Especially the doc could be a much better > experience if more users would make small contributions. Especially if > they use wording other admins understand better. > > Having said this, once again my sincere thanks for helping with rsyslog > support! > Rainer > > > > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:22 AM Rainer Gerhards < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> El lun., 26 nov. 2018 a las 10:08, Flo Rance (<[email protected]>) > escribió: > >> > > >> > Hi Rainer, > >> > > >> > It was not a criticism against you, just an observation. > >> > >> All good, I don't feel criticiced. I just want to point out that with > >> a real open source project like rsyslog, we really depend on > >> contributions. And doc is easy to contribute. Essentially, it's far > >> better if users contribute. Because they know what problems other > >> users have. The current state of the doc is the result of it being > >> created mostly be folks who are deep inside rsyslog and don't see what > >> may be missing. Also, it's just a matter of time to do things. The > >> todo list is already very long. > >> > >> The doc always made a big step forward when users helped with this. > >> The last leap e.g. was driven by @deoren. > >> > >> > > >> > I don't know if it was intended to be supported as "date-year" and it > doesn't work as expected, or if the real syntax is just "year". > >> > >> crafted PR instead of writing this all here (which, btw, is a good way > >> imho to move the doc forward - or copy&paste things you have already > >> written to a PR). > >> > >> https://github.com/rsyslog/rsyslog-doc/pull/751 > >> > >> Rainer > >> > >> > > >> > Flo > >> > > >> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:02 AM Rainer Gerhards < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Just a side-note: I know the doc is bad. I try my best to make > >> >> improvements whenever I have time. But it would really be helpful if > >> >> others would invest a minute here or there to fix things that they > see > >> >> to be wrong or hard to understand. Usually it's done within a few > >> >> minutes and it not only helps your peers but maybe yourself in the > >> >> future (when memory has vanished). > >> >> > >> >> You can even use the github online editor to craft updates: > >> >> > >> >> https://github.com/rsyslog/rsyslog-doc/tree/master/source > >> >> > >> >> Rainer > >> >> El lun., 26 nov. 2018 a las 9:53, Flo Rance via rsyslog > >> >> (<[email protected]>) escribió: > >> >> > > >> >> > Hi, > >> >> > > >> >> > The doc is very confusing, especially that part which shows > examples with > >> >> > "date-*" date format: > >> >> > > >> >> > https://www.rsyslog.com/doc/v8-stable/configuration/templates.html > >> >> > > >> >> > However, other part of the doc shows examples without the "date-" > in date > >> >> > format. > >> >> > > >> >> > Remove all the "date-" in dateformat fields and it'll work as > expected. > >> >> > > >> >> > e.g. dateformat="year" > >> >> > > >> >> > IMO, this might be a bug, either in the doc or in the program. > >> >> > > >> >> > Flo > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 11:43 PM Jason Marshall < > [email protected]> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > Hi all, I'm sure I'm doing something stupid that's causing this > not to > >> >> > > work. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > I am trying to format the logs coming in on local1.info so that > they are > >> >> > > saved in a separate file, and have a custom date-stamp vs the > other logs > >> >> > > that are being written to other files. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > I am using rsyslog v8.24 on CentOS 7.5 if this is correct: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > # rpm -qa |grep rsyslog > >> >> > > rsyslog-8.24.0-16.el7_5.4.x86_64 > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Here is my template: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > template (name="local1template" type="list") { > >> >> > > property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-year") > >> >> > > constant(value="-") > >> >> > > property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-month") > >> >> > > constant(value="-") > >> >> > > property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-day") > >> >> > > constant(value=" ") > >> >> > > property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-hour") > >> >> > > constant(value=":") > >> >> > > property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-minute") > >> >> > > constant(value=":") > >> >> > > property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-second") > >> >> > > constant(value=" ") > >> >> > > property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-wdayname") > >> >> > > constant(value=" ") > >> >> > > property(name="hostname") > >> >> > > constant(value=" ") > >> >> > > property(name="syslogtag") > >> >> > > constant(value=" ") > >> >> > > property(name="msg") > >> >> > > constant(value="\n") > >> >> > > } > >> >> > > > >> >> > > and my binding: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > local1.* action(type="omfile" file="/var/log/jmtest.log" > >> >> > > template="local1template") > >> >> > > > >> >> > > When I restart rsyslogd, I eithe get nothing logged from > local1.info, or > >> >> > > it falls through to the 'messages' file. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > When I run rsyslogd in debug mode, it complains that it doesn't > like > >> >> > > 'dateformat="date-year"'. I commented out that part, and it then > >> >> > > complained about 'dateformat="date-month"'. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > It's very unclear to me what I should be putting in this > template. It's > >> >> > > also unclear whether I'm going about this correctly at all. > Should I be > >> >> > > using the property-replacer instead somehow? How would that > even work > >> >> > > here? > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Thanks everyone, sorry if this is in the doc somewhere, but if > it is I > >> >> > > haven't been able to find (or perhaps recognize) it. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > --- > >> >> > > Jason Marshall > >> >> > > Katalyst Data Management > >> >> > > www.katalystdm.com | www.seismiczone.com > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > > rsyslog mailing list > >> >> > > http://lists.adiscon.net/mailman/listinfo/rsyslog > >> >> > > http://www.rsyslog.com/professional-services/ > >> >> > > What's up with rsyslog? 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