Thanks for the feedback!

I'll try to help fix doc issues, should the opportunity arise.

Flo

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 4:14 PM Rainer Gerhards <[email protected]>
wrote:

> El lun., 26 nov. 2018 a las 10:28, Flo Rance (<[email protected]>)
> escribió:
> >
> > It would have been hard for me to figure out that, thanks.
>
> Full ACK! That's why I try to monitor as much of the questions as possible
> ;-)
>
> And don't get me wrong: I really appreciate the work that you put into
> helping others. It's most useful.
>
> But in general it would be beneficial if those small things that can
> make life hard be fixed by those that notice it. We get some (very
> useful) small doc contributions, but the number of folks just writing
> "this is bad" vs. actually doing that small fix is frustrating. Even
> more so some regular users who always ask for help, intensely, but
> never ever give something back to the project. I admit I have set an
> ignore flag for most of them.
>
> Looking at the current PR, for example, it now has the facts but
> leaves the doc once more inconsistent: one place is fixed, the other
> one (property replacer) not. In an ideal world, some of them
> complaining that the doc is so hard to use would step in and fix that
> [and for sure I do NOT mean you!].
>
> Just to clarify a bit. Especially the doc could be a much better
> experience if more users would make small contributions. Especially if
> they use wording other admins understand better.
>
> Having said this, once again my sincere thanks for helping with rsyslog
> support!
> Rainer
>
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:22 AM Rainer Gerhards <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> El lun., 26 nov. 2018 a las 10:08, Flo Rance (<[email protected]>)
> escribió:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Rainer,
> >> >
> >> > It was not a criticism against you, just an observation.
> >>
> >> All good, I don't feel criticiced. I just want to point out that with
> >> a real open source project like rsyslog, we really depend on
> >> contributions. And doc is easy to contribute. Essentially, it's far
> >> better if users contribute. Because they know what problems other
> >> users have. The current state of the doc is the result of it being
> >> created mostly be folks who are deep inside rsyslog and don't see what
> >> may be missing. Also, it's just a matter of time to do things. The
> >> todo list is already very long.
> >>
> >> The doc always made a big step forward when users helped with this.
> >> The last leap e.g. was driven by @deoren.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I don't know if it was intended to be supported as "date-year" and it
> doesn't work as expected, or if the real syntax is just "year".
> >>
> >> crafted PR instead of writing this all here (which, btw, is a good way
> >> imho to move the doc forward - or copy&paste things you have already
> >> written to a PR).
> >>
> >> https://github.com/rsyslog/rsyslog-doc/pull/751
> >>
> >> Rainer
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Flo
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:02 AM Rainer Gerhards <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Just a side-note: I know the doc is bad. I try my best to make
> >> >> improvements whenever I have time. But it would really be helpful if
> >> >> others would invest a minute here or there to fix things that they
> see
> >> >> to be wrong or hard to understand. Usually it's done within a few
> >> >> minutes and it not only helps your peers but maybe yourself in the
> >> >> future (when memory has vanished).
> >> >>
> >> >> You can even use the github online editor to craft updates:
> >> >>
> >> >> https://github.com/rsyslog/rsyslog-doc/tree/master/source
> >> >>
> >> >> Rainer
> >> >> El lun., 26 nov. 2018 a las 9:53, Flo Rance via rsyslog
> >> >> (<[email protected]>) escribió:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The doc is very confusing, especially that part which shows
> examples with
> >> >> > "date-*" date format:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > https://www.rsyslog.com/doc/v8-stable/configuration/templates.html
> >> >> >
> >> >> > However, other part of the doc shows examples without the "date-"
> in date
> >> >> > format.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Remove all the "date-" in dateformat fields and it'll work as
> expected.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > e.g. dateformat="year"
> >> >> >
> >> >> > IMO, this might be a bug, either in the doc or in the program.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Flo
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 11:43 PM Jason Marshall <
> [email protected]>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > Hi all, I'm sure I'm doing something stupid that's causing this
> not to
> >> >> > > work.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I am trying to format the logs coming in on local1.info so that
> they are
> >> >> > > saved in a separate file, and have a custom date-stamp vs the
> other logs
> >> >> > > that are being written to other files.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I am using rsyslog v8.24 on CentOS 7.5 if this is correct:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > # rpm -qa |grep rsyslog
> >> >> > > rsyslog-8.24.0-16.el7_5.4.x86_64
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Here is my template:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > template (name="local1template" type="list") {
> >> >> > >     property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-year")
> >> >> > >     constant(value="-")
> >> >> > >     property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-month")
> >> >> > >     constant(value="-")
> >> >> > >     property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-day")
> >> >> > >     constant(value=" ")
> >> >> > >     property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-hour")
> >> >> > >     constant(value=":")
> >> >> > >     property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-minute")
> >> >> > >     constant(value=":")
> >> >> > >     property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-second")
> >> >> > >     constant(value=" ")
> >> >> > >     property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-wdayname")
> >> >> > >     constant(value=" ")
> >> >> > >     property(name="hostname")
> >> >> > >     constant(value=" ")
> >> >> > >     property(name="syslogtag")
> >> >> > >     constant(value=" ")
> >> >> > >     property(name="msg")
> >> >> > >     constant(value="\n")
> >> >> > > }
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > and my binding:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > local1.*        action(type="omfile" file="/var/log/jmtest.log"
> >> >> > > template="local1template")
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > When I restart rsyslogd, I eithe get nothing logged from
> local1.info, or
> >> >> > > it falls through to the 'messages' file.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > When I run rsyslogd in debug mode, it complains that it doesn't
> like
> >> >> > > 'dateformat="date-year"'.  I commented out that part, and it then
> >> >> > > complained about 'dateformat="date-month"'.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > It's very unclear to me what I should be putting in this
> template.  It's
> >> >> > > also unclear whether I'm going about this correctly at all.
> Should I be
> >> >> > > using the property-replacer instead somehow?  How would that
> even work
> >> >> > > here?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Thanks everyone, sorry if this is in the doc somewhere, but if
> it is I
> >> >> > > haven't been able to find (or perhaps recognize) it.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > ---
> >> >> > > Jason Marshall
> >> >> > > Katalyst Data Management
> >> >> > > www.katalystdm.com | www.seismiczone.com
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