Thanks a lot!
El lun., 26 nov. 2018 a las 16:26, Flo Rance (<[email protected]>) escribió:
>
> Thanks for the feedback!
>
> I'll try to help fix doc issues, should the opportunity arise.
>
> Flo
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 4:14 PM Rainer Gerhards <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> El lun., 26 nov. 2018 a las 10:28, Flo Rance (<[email protected]>)
>> escribió:
>> >
>> > It would have been hard for me to figure out that, thanks.
>>
>> Full ACK! That's why I try to monitor as much of the questions as possible
>> ;-)
>>
>> And don't get me wrong: I really appreciate the work that you put into
>> helping others. It's most useful.
>>
>> But in general it would be beneficial if those small things that can
>> make life hard be fixed by those that notice it. We get some (very
>> useful) small doc contributions, but the number of folks just writing
>> "this is bad" vs. actually doing that small fix is frustrating. Even
>> more so some regular users who always ask for help, intensely, but
>> never ever give something back to the project. I admit I have set an
>> ignore flag for most of them.
>>
>> Looking at the current PR, for example, it now has the facts but
>> leaves the doc once more inconsistent: one place is fixed, the other
>> one (property replacer) not. In an ideal world, some of them
>> complaining that the doc is so hard to use would step in and fix that
>> [and for sure I do NOT mean you!].
>>
>> Just to clarify a bit. Especially the doc could be a much better
>> experience if more users would make small contributions. Especially if
>> they use wording other admins understand better.
>>
>> Having said this, once again my sincere thanks for helping with rsyslog
>> support!
>> Rainer
>>
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:22 AM Rainer Gerhards
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> El lun., 26 nov. 2018 a las 10:08, Flo Rance (<[email protected]>)
>> >> escribió:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi Rainer,
>> >> >
>> >> > It was not a criticism against you, just an observation.
>> >>
>> >> All good, I don't feel criticiced. I just want to point out that with
>> >> a real open source project like rsyslog, we really depend on
>> >> contributions. And doc is easy to contribute. Essentially, it's far
>> >> better if users contribute. Because they know what problems other
>> >> users have. The current state of the doc is the result of it being
>> >> created mostly be folks who are deep inside rsyslog and don't see what
>> >> may be missing. Also, it's just a matter of time to do things. The
>> >> todo list is already very long.
>> >>
>> >> The doc always made a big step forward when users helped with this.
>> >> The last leap e.g. was driven by @deoren.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't know if it was intended to be supported as "date-year" and it
>> >> > doesn't work as expected, or if the real syntax is just "year".
>> >>
>> >> crafted PR instead of writing this all here (which, btw, is a good way
>> >> imho to move the doc forward - or copy&paste things you have already
>> >> written to a PR).
>> >>
>> >> https://github.com/rsyslog/rsyslog-doc/pull/751
>> >>
>> >> Rainer
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Flo
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:02 AM Rainer Gerhards
>> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Just a side-note: I know the doc is bad. I try my best to make
>> >> >> improvements whenever I have time. But it would really be helpful if
>> >> >> others would invest a minute here or there to fix things that they see
>> >> >> to be wrong or hard to understand. Usually it's done within a few
>> >> >> minutes and it not only helps your peers but maybe yourself in the
>> >> >> future (when memory has vanished).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You can even use the github online editor to craft updates:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://github.com/rsyslog/rsyslog-doc/tree/master/source
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Rainer
>> >> >> El lun., 26 nov. 2018 a las 9:53, Flo Rance via rsyslog
>> >> >> (<[email protected]>) escribió:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Hi,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The doc is very confusing, especially that part which shows examples
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > "date-*" date format:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > https://www.rsyslog.com/doc/v8-stable/configuration/templates.html
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > However, other part of the doc shows examples without the "date-" in
>> >> >> > date
>> >> >> > format.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Remove all the "date-" in dateformat fields and it'll work as
>> >> >> > expected.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > e.g. dateformat="year"
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > IMO, this might be a bug, either in the doc or in the program.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Flo
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 11:43 PM Jason Marshall
>> >> >> > <[email protected]>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > > Hi all, I'm sure I'm doing something stupid that's causing this
>> >> >> > > not to
>> >> >> > > work.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > I am trying to format the logs coming in on local1.info so that
>> >> >> > > they are
>> >> >> > > saved in a separate file, and have a custom date-stamp vs the
>> >> >> > > other logs
>> >> >> > > that are being written to other files.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > I am using rsyslog v8.24 on CentOS 7.5 if this is correct:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > # rpm -qa |grep rsyslog
>> >> >> > > rsyslog-8.24.0-16.el7_5.4.x86_64
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Here is my template:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > template (name="local1template" type="list") {
>> >> >> > > property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-year")
>> >> >> > > constant(value="-")
>> >> >> > > property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-month")
>> >> >> > > constant(value="-")
>> >> >> > > property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-day")
>> >> >> > > constant(value=" ")
>> >> >> > > property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-hour")
>> >> >> > > constant(value=":")
>> >> >> > > property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-minute")
>> >> >> > > constant(value=":")
>> >> >> > > property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-second")
>> >> >> > > constant(value=" ")
>> >> >> > > property(name="timereported" dateformat="date-wdayname")
>> >> >> > > constant(value=" ")
>> >> >> > > property(name="hostname")
>> >> >> > > constant(value=" ")
>> >> >> > > property(name="syslogtag")
>> >> >> > > constant(value=" ")
>> >> >> > > property(name="msg")
>> >> >> > > constant(value="\n")
>> >> >> > > }
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > and my binding:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > local1.* action(type="omfile" file="/var/log/jmtest.log"
>> >> >> > > template="local1template")
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > When I restart rsyslogd, I eithe get nothing logged from
>> >> >> > > local1.info, or
>> >> >> > > it falls through to the 'messages' file.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > When I run rsyslogd in debug mode, it complains that it doesn't
>> >> >> > > like
>> >> >> > > 'dateformat="date-year"'. I commented out that part, and it then
>> >> >> > > complained about 'dateformat="date-month"'.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > It's very unclear to me what I should be putting in this template.
>> >> >> > > It's
>> >> >> > > also unclear whether I'm going about this correctly at all.
>> >> >> > > Should I be
>> >> >> > > using the property-replacer instead somehow? How would that even
>> >> >> > > work
>> >> >> > > here?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Thanks everyone, sorry if this is in the doc somewhere, but if it
>> >> >> > > is I
>> >> >> > > haven't been able to find (or perhaps recognize) it.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > ---
>> >> >> > > Jason Marshall
>> >> >> > > Katalyst Data Management
>> >> >> > > www.katalystdm.com | www.seismiczone.com
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