Don't forget about Tim, he has an opinion, although rarely valid. :)

Since we can't agree on the Iraq issue (although I seem to be the only one
left in the burning building), we need to find another topic to hash out. Ya
know, since football is so un-controversial and all.

So I'll offer my stance on a few issues and see if we can agree on anything:

JoBu is pro-choice, pro-gun, anti-bussing. Let the gays marry (no one really
cares what they do, but they're fun to watch). Anti-welfare (except for
those really needing it), pro-nuclear power, anti-rodeo (surprise there
huh?), semi-pro-pledge of allegiance, semi-anti-Ten Commandments in
state\federal\public buildings (although I do like the movie), pro-Hooters,
pro-death penalty, anti-instant replay, anti-dry ribs, anti-illegal aliens,
anti-reparations (didcha see the article about the UofA professor who has
uncovered that slaves helped build some of the buildings\worked for UofA and
now he has developed a trial from them to their present day kinfolk and
wants the UofA to make reparations???), pro-Michelin, anti-Goodyear.
Pro-equal rights (but not the way the theory has declined into the actual
practice), pro-excessive celebration in the endzone, anti-day games in 90
degree heat, anti-any game in BHAM, anti-prostate exam, pro-Starbucks.

There. Who's next?

 -----Original Message-----
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On
Behalf Of Jamie Watts
Sent:   Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:29 AM
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Subject:        Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu  & Joe

Youse two is startin' to sound a lot like us drugged out
Libertarians....Jamie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joel Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:17 AM
Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)


> I agree with you (Shiite!!) that the school systems are in need of one of
> them bridges built to those less fortunate.
>
> Interesting that you point out that we (although there is no 'we' in
Federal
> Gubmint) spend $5-6000 a year in Federal dollars but then you also mention
> how the federal plutocracy wants to dictate what the schools can teach.
> Although I don't necessarily agree with it, the entity who pays for the
> education (the teacher's salary, the buildings, the expenses) can in fact
> dictate what is taught. Whoever holds the purse-strings gets to call the
> shots. Until the school systems are treated like a business and ran
> accordingly, we are in store for more of the same.
>
> As far as choosing what kind of education your child receives, you have
that
> choice now: Moving to districts where the schools are better; sending your
> kids to private school and home-schooling are all valid options. What most
> people though are looking for are ways to have their children educated
> better, but at no direct cost to the parents. My opinion, differ with me
if
> you like, is that it isn't the gubmint's responsibility to provide 'free'
> education to the mass population. If it is, then they get to dictate what
is
> taught. If you, as a parent don't like it, fork over the money to move,
send
> them to a private school or have one of the parents stay home and teach
> little Jimmy the A,B,C's.
>
> For schools to teach what the local parents want means the parents are
going
> to have to pay for it. Having the parents pay $2-800 a month for their
kids
> to be taught the way in which the parents feel is usually where the fight
> ends.
>
> (Talking about throwing money at a problem, I saw on the news where
American
> troops were giving money to families (compensating them) who live in
houses
> that were destroyed as part of the round-up of the bad guys. Wonder how
much
> a clay and rock 3/2 rancher will fetch in a war-torn area with no
> electricity, water or roof?)
>
> And yes, there are millions of people who don't have running water. If
that
> isn't the case, explain to me why the entire population of Tinnersee
smells
> that way???:)
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On
> Behalf Of Joe Goodson
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:25 PM
> To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu  602 huh?
>
> > Interesting that we (the American gubmint) can globe-hop and re-build
> > schools and make sure all these fine folks have running water while
there
> > are schools in THIS country that don't have enough
> > money\space\teachers\supplies\etc.
>
> Whoa!!!  I know you didn't just say / type that.  Consider this.  Throwing
> money at problems has never done anything other than make them worse.
> Consider poverty.  We throw money at it and subsidize fatherless babies
and
> viola!  More fatherless babies born into poverty stricken pseudo families!
> Think about a drug addict or an alcoholic.  Keep throwing money at them
and
> see what you get.
>
> So when you think about education, think about the $5-6,000 that we spend
in
> federal dollars on each student every year.  You know, about 25% of the
> middleschool students cannot find the United States on a world map?  Can
you
> believe that?  It is not due to a lack of money.  It is due to a federal
> plutocracy that wants to dictate what the schools can teach, i.e..
"Heather
> has Two Mommies" and other such crap.  If you have a class of 25 students
at
> $5,000 a pop, then you have 5,000 X 25= $125,000.00.  After you pay a
> teacher about $30,000.00 that leaves $95,000.00.  WTF happens to all that
> cash?  And that is just from ONE classroom.  Multiply the school
population
> by $5,000.00 and ask yourself why the hell we are cranking out a bunch of
> idiots that have to take remedial math courses upon signing up for
college.
> They don't even teach History like they used to.  Face it, the federal
> government needs to give Americans school vouchers so that they can choose
> what kind of education their children receive.
>
>
> > Not to mention the millions of people who can't afford health care; who
> > can't find decent housing; who don't have running water.
>
> OH  puhlease!  Do you actually think that there are MILLIONS of people in
> America without running water in their house?
>
> Joe
>
> There is a rank due to the United States, among nations, which will be
> withheld, if not absolutely lost, by the reputation of weakness. If we
> desire to avoid insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to
secure
> peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity, it
> must be known that we are at all times ready for war.
>
>   - George Washington, Annual Message, December 1793
>
>
>
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