Hi,

Yes, for P2P the LSP should be different for the ingress routers which should 
help identify a session. For MP2P sessions, we will have the same parameters 
for all ingresses and so Source should be able to identify an appropriate 
session.

Regards
Mallik

From: "S. Davari" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Friday, 17 July 2015 12:45
To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Santosh P K <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Mallik 
Mudigonda <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
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Subject: Re: 答复: RE: issues about draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-02

Peng

I think you are assuming mp2p LSP. Since for P2P
LSP we won't have this problem. Right?

Regards,
Shahram


On Jul 17, 2015, at 12:03 AM, 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:


Hi Santosh

For example, there are two diferrent ingress (LSR1 & LSR2) want to establish 
BFD session with the same egress (LSR3) for same FEC (3.3.3.9/32). PLease see 
the following steps.

step1: LSR1 construct an LSP echo request message, including LSR1-LD (100) and 
FEC (3.3.3.9/32)
step2: LSR3 received the echo request message, if FEC validation check succeed, 
it will NEW a BFD entity, allocate LSR3-LD (200) based on tuple <FEC, LSR1-LD>.
       Now LSR3 can send a BFD control packet with MD=200 YD=100.
step3: LSR2 also construct an LSP echo request message, including LSR2-LD (100) 
and FEC (3.3.3.9/32)
step4: LSR3 received the echo request message, if FEC validation check succeed, 
it will match to the above already existing BFD session, because tuple <FEC, 
LSR2-LD> equal <FEC, LSR1-LD>

thanks
Deccan



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2015-07-17 下午 01:27


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Mallik,
   When a BFD packet is received with your_disc as non-zero then we use only 
that as demux entity. Your_discr is a value allocated by local router and 
should be unique across the system. So where is the question of having any 
other field to be used as demux? Are you talking about same discr for BFD 
session for same LSP in case of ECMP? Can you please explain more in detail 
what is the scenario? I might have missed some basic thing here.


Thanks
Santosh P K

From: MALLIK MUDIGONDA (mmudigon) [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:45 AM
To: Santosh P K; S. Davari
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: issues about draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-02

Hi,

The question is even with LSP ping, how to de-mutiplex if all the parameters 
are the same. That’s where the source address comes into picture.

Thanks

Regards
Mallik

From: Santosh P K <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Friday, 17 July 2015 10:21
To: "S. Davari" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Mallik Mudigonda 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
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Subject: RE: issues about draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-02

Sharam,
   True but here it is 5884 and for 5884 (MPLS BFD) we do bootstrapping using 
LSP ping and that exchange discr right? So you should ideally not receive any 
BFD packet with your_disc = 0.

Thanks
Santosh P K

From: S. Davari [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 9:51 AM
To: Santosh P K
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; MALLIK MUDIGONDA 
(mmudigon); [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: issues about draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-02

Hi Santosh

I think the issue is the first BFD packet that has your Desc =0. Question is 
how to differentiate them when they are from different ingress LSR.

Regards,
Shahram


On Jul 16, 2015, at 8:48 PM, Santosh P K 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hello Deccan, MALLIK and Shahram,
     I want to understand why do we need this? When BFD bootstrapping is 
completed then we use local discr (BFD packet your discr) as a key which will 
be unique with in the local system. Please take a look at below section of RFC 
5880.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5880#section-6.3

We don’t need to really use any other fields as we would have exchanged the 
discr using LSP ping. I might have misunderstood your question and would like 
to be corrected.


Thanks
Santosh P K

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Subject: 答复: Re: issues about draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-02


Hi Mallik

Source address is also a good method. But it is better to form as standard.

thanks





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2015-07-16 下午 02:16

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Hi,

I think the question is 2 different ingress LSRs using the same FEC, LSP, 
Discriminator values. Discriminator values can be the same for 2 different 
ingress LSRs and if the other values are same we can always use the Source 
address to differentiate. Am I missing something?

Regards
Mallik

From: "S. Davari" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Wednesday, 15 July 2015 20:12
To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: issues about draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-02

Hi

Why can't the ingress allocate different LD to each of those BFD sessions?

Regards,
Shahram


On Jul 15, 2015, at 7:30 AM, 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


hi authors

It is neccessary to address the case that different ingress LSR establish BFD 
session with the same egress LSR, with same FEC, same local descriminator.
I think it is very useful to introduce a BFD Initiator TLV to LSP ping echo 
request message, to distinguish different ingress LSR. So that ingress allocate 
LD based on tuple <FEC, LSP> as defined in this draft, but egress allocate LD 
based on tuple <Initiator, FEC, RD>.

thanks
deccan


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