Hi Xiao,

Thanks for adding the references. This and the previous clarification update 
will address all my concerns. Cheers.

> On Oct 17, 2024, at 12:23 AM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeff, Mahesh,
> 
> 
> 
> I'm following your discussion.
> Please see inline.
> Original
> From: JeffreyHaas <[email protected]>
> To: Mahesh Jethanandani <[email protected]>;
> Cc: 肖敏10093570;The IESG 
> <[email protected]>;[email protected] 
> <[email protected]>;[email protected] 
> <[email protected]>;rtg-bfd@ietf. <[email protected]>;
> Date: 2024年10月17日 08:47
> Subject: Re: Mahesh Jethanandani's No Objection on 
> draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-echo-12: (with COMMENT)
> Mahesh,
> 
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2024, at 7:23 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Oct 16, 2024, at 12:15 PM, Jeffrey Haas <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mahesh,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 16, 2024, at 2:41 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> [mj] I think I saw a similar comment on one of the other threads. It is 
>>>> not clear whether this “loopback” of packets is happening at layer 1 
>>>> (physical) or layer 2 (IP layer). From the sound of it, it appears it is 
>>>> happening at layer 1, or at least where there is no lookup of IP 
>>>> address(es) happening. If there was, the destination address could be more 
>>>> than one hop away. In either case, clarifying how the packets are being 
>>>> “looped” back would help.
>>> 
>>> This draft is meant to be read with RFC 5880/5881 and should avoid trying 
>>> to redefine things.
>>> 
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5880#autoid-12 
>>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5880#autoid-12>
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5881#section-4 
>>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5881#section-4>
>>> Please see the above to see if this clarifies your thinking.
>> 
>> It did, and thanks for the pointer. 
>> 
>> Rather than add the above suggested text, and if the idea is to not redefine 
>> things, how about adding the two links you suggest as a reference?
> 
> The authors certainly could add some additional text in the Introduction 
> section clarifying that this feature extends the existing BFD Echo 
> functionality with those references.
> [XM]>>> OK. Propose to add those references as below.
> 
> OLD
> 
> When the Echo function is activated, the local system sends BFD Echo packets 
> and the remote system loops back the received Echo packets through the 
> forwarding path. If several consecutive BFD Echo packets are not received by 
> the local system, then the BFD session is declared to be Down.
> 
> NEW
> 
> When the Echo function is activated, the local system sends BFD Echo packets 
> and the remote system loops back the received Echo packets through the 
> forwarding path, as described in Section 5 of [RFC5880] and Section 4 of 
> [RFC5881]. If several consecutive BFD Echo packets are not received by the 
> local system, then the BFD session is declared to be Down.
> 
> END
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Xiao Min
> 
> 
> 
> -- Jeff
> 
> It specifies the use of the Unaffiliated BFD Echo over    IPv4 and IPv6 for a 
> single IP hop.  The reason why it cannot be used for multihop paths is that 
> the Unaffiliated BFD Echo packets would be looped back by the first hop. A 
> full description of the updates    to [RFC5880] is provided in Section 3.
> 
> 

Mahesh Jethanandani
[email protected]



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