Hi Mahesh,

Thank you for the confirmation.
I'll change the text as we agreed.

Cheers,
Xiao Min


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From: MaheshJethanandani <[email protected]>
To: 肖敏10093570;
Cc: Jeffrey Haas <[email protected]>;The IESG 
<[email protected]>;[email protected] 
<[email protected]>;[email protected] 
<[email protected]>;rtg-bfd@ietf. <[email protected]>;
Date: 2024年10月17日 23:17
Subject: Re: Mahesh Jethanandani's No Objection on 
draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-echo-12: (with COMMENT)


Hi Xiao,

Thanks for adding the references. This and the previous clarification update 
will address all my concerns. Cheers.
On Oct 17, 2024, at 12:23 AM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> 
wrote:



Hi Jeff, Mahesh,

I'm following your discussion.
Please see inline.






Mahesh Jethanandani
[email protected]

 





From: JeffreyHaas <[email protected]>
To: Mahesh Jethanandani <[email protected]>;
Cc: 肖敏10093570;The IESG 
<[email protected]>;[email protected] 
<[email protected]>;[email protected] 
<[email protected]>;rtg-bfd@ietf. <[email protected]>;
Date: 2024年10月17日 08:47
Subject: Re: Mahesh Jethanandani's No Objection on 
draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-echo-12: (with COMMENT)

Mahesh,


On Oct 16, 2024, at 7:23 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani <[email protected]> 
wrote:



On Oct 16, 2024, at 12:15 PM, Jeffrey Haas <[email protected]> wrote:


Mahesh,


On Oct 16, 2024, at 2:41 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani <[email protected]> 
wrote:



[mj] I think I saw a similar comment on one of the other threads. It is not 
clear whether this “loopback” of packets is happening at layer 1 (physical) or 
layer 2 (IP layer). From the sound of it, it appears it is happening at layer 
1, or at least where there is no lookup of IP address(es) happening. If there 
was, the destination address could be more than one hop away. In either case, 
clarifying how the packets are being “looped” back would help.



This draft is meant to be read with RFC 5880/5881 and should avoid trying to 
redefine things.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5880#autoid-12
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5881#section-4







Please see the above to see if this clarifies your thinking.



It did, and thanks for the pointer. 

Rather than add the above suggested text, and if the idea is to not redefine 
things, how about adding the two links you suggest as a reference?


The authors certainly could add some additional text in the Introduction 
section clarifying that this feature extends the existing BFD Echo 
functionality with those references.
[XM]>>> OK. Propose to add those references as below.
OLD
When the Echo function is activated, the local system sends BFD Echo packets 
and the remote system loops back the received Echo packets through the 
forwarding path. If several consecutive BFD Echo packets are not received by 
the local system, then the BFD session is declared to be Down.
NEW
When the Echo function is activated, the local system sends BFD Echo packets 
and the remote system loops back the received Echo packets through the 
forwarding path, as described in Section 5 of [RFC5880] and Section 4 of 
[RFC5881]. If several consecutive BFD Echo packets are not received by the 
local system, then the BFD session is declared to be Down.
END

Cheers,
Xiao Min

-- Jeff




It specifies the use of the Unaffiliated BFD Echo over IPv4 and IPv6 for a 
single IP hop. The reason why it cannot be used for multihop paths is that the 
Unaffiliated BFD Echo packets would be looped back by the first hop. A full 
description of the updates to [RFC5880] is provided in Section 3.

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