On Dec 13, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Peter Psenak wrote:

> Bruno,
> 
> On 13.12.2012 15:21, [email protected] wrote:
>> Peter,
>> 
>>> From: Peter Psenak
>>> 
>>> Hannes,
>>> 
>>> On 12.12.2012 17:05, Hannes Gredler wrote:
>>> 
>>>> in favor of explicit advertisement, i'd rather do 3 rules here :
>>>> 
>>>> 1. PQ node OSPF router-id, if it is advertised as /32 prefix by the PQ node
>>> itself
>>>> 2. PQ node TE adress, if it is advertised as /32 prefix by the PQ node 
>>>> itself
>>>> 3.  Highest /32 address advertised by PQ node in it's Router LSA
>>> 
>>> ether (1) or (3) is mandatory for the t-LDP session creation. (2) is
>>> optional and not sufficient for t-LDP session, so we can not have it
>>> before (3).
>>> 
>>> It looks to me we are trying to solve the configuration problem which
>>> should not be addressed here.
>> 
>> It looks to me that we are trying to address the network management problem 
>> and deployability/interoperability in a multi-vendor network.
>> May be this can be done by configuration. In this case, could you please 
>> elaborate on what you propose?
>> Given that at least two routers (the PLR and the PQ) must agree on 
>> establishing the T-LDP session, there is a priori room for coordination. And 
>> given that a PLR (resp. PQ) needs to be able to use (resp. used) "any" PQ 
>> (resp. PLR), it seems useful that the same mechanism be shared by all PQs 
>> and PLRs, rathers than one relying on ISIS tag, another on order of IP 
>> addresses, another on static address range...
>> Hannes' request seems a relevant point to discuss on the mailing list and 
>> IMO the R-LFA draft should discuss this.
>> Even if the R-LFA proposition is not specific to a network environment (e.g. 
>> type of tunnels) the goal is to _deploy_ the R-LFA proposition. And that 
>> deployment will be a specific environment, where this is expected to work. I 
>> also think MPLS tunnels (LSPs) established by LDP seems a reasonably popular 
>> target deployment.
>> 
>> Unless it is believed that a local algorithm, without coordination between 
>> routers/vendor, can work in 100% of the cases. Is this your point?
> 
> local algorithm that picks any of the /32 IP addresses advertised by PQ node 
> will work in 100% of cases.

peter,

two questions:

1) how do you know that the other side will be accepting the T-LDP session at a 
non loopback IP address ?
2) what is your proposed scheme for minimizing the amount of T-LDP sessions 
between a pair of routers ?
    (is it numerically highest IP ?)

/hannes

>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Regards,
>> Bruno
>> 
>>> thanks,
>>> Peter
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