It's a can't have linked I-Ds (like linked files) so that they show up in the document trail in other relevant WGs.

- Stewart

On 23/09/2014 14:25, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote:
Hi Bruno,

On Sep 23, 2014, at 4:27 AM, <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi,
Please find below 2 feedbacks:
1)Small topics
"and may work on specific small topics that do not fit with an existing working group."
"RTGWG may also work on specific small topics that do not fit with an existing 
working group."
What about work which is general to Link State Protocols i.e. not specific to IS-IS and OSPF protocols. Should it be done once in RTGWG or twice in both IS-IS & OSPF WGs? e.g.draft-litkowski-rtgwg-spf-uloop-pb-statement <http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/90/slides/slides-90-rtgwg-1.pdf>,draft-decraene-rtgwg-backoff-algo <http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/90/slides/slides-90-rtgwg-2.pdf>

I think these can stay in the RTG WG for two reasons:

1. They don't require changes to the OSPF/ISIS protocol encodings or protocol-specific changes to the mechanisms. 2. These drafts flow naturally from previous RTG WG drafts and the general theme of avoiding/minimizing traffic loss in the presence of failures.

Thanks,
Acee


2)BoF/new WG
"Options for handling new work include:
- Developing a proposal for a BoF.
- Developing a charter and establishing consensus for a new WG"
It seems to me that so far the above work was currently performed in Routing Area plenary meetings.
Do we want to move this to RTGWG? If so
- I'm a bit concerned that such activities are less technically oriented, possibly political and involving many discussions and hence could delay the technical work in RTGWG. - What's the remaining use of the Routing Area plenary meeting? A top down summary of latest WG status?
Thanks,
Regards,
Bruno
*From:*rtgwg [mailto:[email protected]]*On Behalf Of*Alvaro Retana (aretana)
*Sent:*Monday, September 22, 2014 9:28 PM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Cc:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>;[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*rtgwg Rechartering
Hi!
I hope many/most of you followed the 'RTG Area Tuning' discussions over the last couple of months..and in the rtgarea meeting in Toronto. As part of the tuning it was proposed to clarify rtgwg's charter to better explain our mission of developing work proposals that do "not yet rise to the level where a new working group is justified, yet the topic does not fit with an existing working group, and it is either not ready for a BOF or a single BOF would not provide the time to ensure a mature proposal" (from the current charter). To that end we have written up a new charter with the help of the ADs. Please take a look: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-rtgwg/ As you read the proposed new charter, you should notice that there are 3 components to what the WG will be doing:

 1. Larger topics on demand, such as the current FRR work.  No change.
 2. Small topics (that don't fit in other WGs).  "An example of a
    small topic is a draft that might otherwise be AD-sponsored but
    which could benefit from the review and consensus that RTGWG can
    provide."  We have already put forth for WG consideration a
    couple of these (draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-routing-large-dc is an
    example).
 3. Be an "optional venue to discuss, evaluate, support and develop
    proposals for new work in the Routing Area".  I don't think this
    type of work is new to rtgwg: you may recall the energy
    efficiency work we discussed a few meetings ago.  But we do spend
    more time discussing this item on the charter.

Please send comments/question/concerns/suggestions in reply to this e-mail.
Thanks!
Alvaro.
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