Hi RTGWG,

Chris and I wanted to get a sense of how the working group would like to 
proceed regarding  draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay
For sake of simplicity – anyplace further in the email - any changes to  
proposed to the existing IGP timers behavior by uloop–delay draft will be 
called - "uloop–delay algorithm"

The basic question for the working group is:   Should we proceed towards 
publication of the draft more or less as is, or should we wait to incorporate 
feedback from one or more implementations of the uloop-delay algorithm?

As far as we know, there haven't been any implementations of the proposed 
uloop-delay algorithm.  It would be good to get an understanding if any 
implementations are in progress or planned.

The uloop-delay algorithm proposed in the document seems quite reasonable.  
However, it is also quite possible that a single implementation would uncover 
some unforeseen issues or suggest improvements for the functioning of the 
algorithm in a single vendor network.  Testing with two or more implementations 
may provide feedback to improve the algorithm with respect to the goal of 
having common uloop-delay timers in a multi-vendor network.  But we won't know 
until that work is done.

If there are implementations in progress or planned, then we think it would be 
worth waiting to incorporate feedback from those implementations before 
publishing.

Instead, if there are no implementations planned, we have several options.  We 
can proceed towards publication more or less as is, with WG last call in the 
near future.  Or we can explicitly decide to wait to publish the document, 
leaving it either as an active WG document or as a parked WG document, and wait 
for one or more implementations.  With the last option, we could leave open the 
option of publishing at some point in the future, even if no implementations 
appear.

Personally, I am quite hopeful that there will be at least prototype 
implementations in the not too distant future.  While it is very unlikely that 
a vendor would change their defaults, it can easily be implemented with a knob 
to activate this algorithm.   This gives a simple way to try out the new 
algorithm incrementally, lowering the bar significantly for at least a 
prototype implementation.

We look forward to hearing feedback from the WG on how to proceed with the 
draft.

Cheers,
Jeff
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