Aijun,

Thank you for the support and the comments.

Please see below for the detailed replies.

Linda

From: rtgwg <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Aijun Wang
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 2:39 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: WGLC for draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2cloud-problem-statement

Hi, All:

This document provides some insights for the emerged problems when the 
enterprises wants to connect their network with the Cloud DC services.
But before its forwarding, I think the following issues should be solved:


1)     It will be helpful for the reader if the document can provide one 
panorama graph at the beginning to illustrate the overall network topology that 
problems can emerged.

It seems that the document wants mainly focus on how to connect/extend the 
traditional VPN services to the Cloud/Multi-Clouds-----if we omit the 5G edge 
clouds related issues(section 3.4)-----all the remaining issues are coming from 
such scenario------Jumping directly to the dispersed technologies can easily 
confuse the reader.



[Linda] The document is mainly about multiple ways to connect to workloads in 
the Cloud, e.g. via L3VPN, Private circuit, and the public Internet, a.k.a.  
via SD-WAN connection to the workloads. Less about the underlay network 
topologies. Figure 1 is intended for the illustration.



2)     It will be better to organize the current issues in more structure 
manners, for examples:

a)     Describes the problems based on the above panorama graph according to 
the related technologies-BGP(section 3.1)/DNS(section 3.3/3.5)/IP Secs(section 
5.1/5.2)/NAT(section 3.6) etc,

b)    Add other non-technologies issues, for example site failure, inter-cloud 
connection etc.

[Linda] The document is an informational document, for describing a set of 
network-related problems enterprises face when interconnecting their branch 
offices with dynamic workloads in Cloud DCs and various mitigation practices 
and actions to soften the issues induced by these problems.
Site failure is a big issue, which builds the foundation for  
draft-ietf-idr-5g-edge-service.


3)     For one standard document, even it is informational, the contents within 
it should be generalized, and the name of companies or their solutions should 
be omitted.(section 4.1/4/2)
[Linda] They were suggested by Earlier Directors review. People think it is 
necessary to have a few examples.


4)     The connections among the problem statements and the 
requirements(section 6) should be improved. Currently, there is no stronger 
logic between these two parts.

[Linda] The requirements are steamed from the mitigation practices documented 
in this document.


5)     The 5G edge cloud related issues can be omitted. As mentioned in the 
document, it is currently being discussed mainly within CATS WG.
[Linda] First, CATS WG is not just about 5G. 5G is only a small example in 
CATS.  Second, this document is many years before CATS WG.


Best Regards

Aijun Wang
China Telecom

From: Jeff Tantsura <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 3:44 PM
To: RTGWG <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: rtgwg-chairs <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: WGLC for draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2cloud-problem-statement

Dear RTGWG,

The authors have requested the RTGWG to last call the 
draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2cloud-problem-statement draft.

The authors have addressed all the comments received from the early reviews and 
shepherd (thanks Joel!).
Please indicate support or no-support by December 20 2023.

IPR:
If you are listed as a document author or contributor and haven’t responded to 
the IPR call, please respond to this
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The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been 
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Thanks,
Yingzhen and Jeff
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