Dear Sarbajit I was more perturbed with your yeasterdays remarks and would like to discontinue my name from ur mailing list, since I do not want to keep any relation with hypocrates not honouring others
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 colnrkurup wrote : > >Thank you very much. Do you know for what ? You are the one and only >person who is now agreeing with my naming last years's "Information >Commissioner's Conference " as a " Conference for collective >bargaining " You have now used a better term - " Trade Union >Conference" > >Col NR Kurup (Retd) > > >--- In [email protected], "Bimal Khemani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > > > Thanks for your mail, and would be excused for my comments > > but I do not think I tried to misguide my fellow member > > > > > > On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 sroy1947 wrote : > > >Dear Gentleman (Bimal), > > > > > >Welcome to [RTI_India]. This group is not to be confused with > > >[Indiarti], [Hum Janenge], and some other groups. Here *I* am the > > >Moderator and my Co-Moderator (although sleeping) is not inferior >to > > >Kumbhakarna for new members when he awakes. > > > > > >In this group we do not deal in "suppositions" but in "facts". We >aim > > >to provide perfectly authentic information and guidance to our >members > > >so that they can achieve TRUTH and PURPOSE in life. > > > > > >The real problem which Avinash (we are all on first name basis >here) > > >faces is connected with a warped interpretation of 7(3)(a) by >certain > > >Information Commissions (and which was worked out by I.C >A.N.Tewari of > > >CIC and circulated at their Trade Union Conference last year). >These > > >f***ers (sorry I am still in Sackhim mode) can get away with it > > >because of their Mir Jafars in RTI movement aka Shekhar Singh, >Aruna > > >Roy etc who tampered with the wording of this section (this is a > > >matter of public record) to the detriment of RTI cause. > > > > > >Sarbajit > > >Moderator > > > > > >--- In [email protected], "Bimal Khemani" <bimal.khemani@> > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Gentleman, > > > > Kindly refer to section 7 (6) which clearly states > > > > > > > > "Notwithstanding anything contained in sub section (5), > > > > the person making request for the information shall be > > > > provided the information free of charge where a public > > > > authority fails to comply with the time limits specified > > > > in sub-section (1). > > > > > > > > and I suppose ur case comes in this category, so tell the > > > > FAA to direct the PIO to provide the information free of > > > > any charge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 Avinash Murkute wrote : > > > > >Dear All, > > > > > > > > > >In recent appeal with AA Panchayat Samiti Cum BDO Hingna Nagpur > > > > >followings were discussed. PIO failed to give the details of >further > > > > >fees representing the cost of providing the information as > > > > >determined by him, together with the calculations made to >arrive at > > > > >the amount in accordance with fee prescribed. (Please refer >earlier > > > > >post RTI at Village level) > > > > > > > > > >PIO was required to carry all the information pertaining to the > > > > >case, as mentioned in the notice issued by AA, but PIO was >unable to > > > > >provide the same during appeal proceeding. Ultimately he called > > > > >employees during appeal proceeding who carried few >information, but > > > > >still couldn't submit the calculations. What should be cost of > > > > >information, what is the size of paper, what is per page cost > > > > >couldn't be ascertained. PIO demanded Rs 266O for >approximately 600 > > > > >pages which included search fee and postage. > > > > > > > > > >PIO was of the opinion that he has powers to charge @ Rs. 5 >per page > > > > >information and RTI act allows him to decide the cost of > > > > >information. Copies of resolutions by Gram Panchayat and date >of > > > > >such resolution couldn't be ascertained as PIO failed to carry >this > > > > >information. AA was of the opinion that A4 page will cost Rs. 2 > > > > >only. > > > > > > > > > >Order was not pronounced in appeal proceeding and order is >awaited. > > > > >Appellant prayed that since PIO failed to carry information and > > > > >based on the documents available on record, PIO failed to >provide > > > > >calculations, information may please be supplied free of cost. >Order > > > > >is awaited! > > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------- > > > > >Dear All, > > > > > > > > > >RTI act 2005 has section 27 (appropriate Government) and >section 28 > > > > >(competent Authority). Definition of competent authority >excludes > > > > >PIO and Gram Sachiva of Gram Panchayat. If at all section 27 >which > > > > >relates to power to make rules by appropriate Government has >to be > > > > >considered my queries are. > > > > > > > > > >1) Who can prescribe the fee payable under sub-section >(1) of > > > > >section 6 and the fee payable under sub-section (1) and (5) of > > > > >section (7) > > > > >2) The appropriate Government may, by notification in the > > > > >Official Gazette, make rules to carry out the provisions of >this > > > > >Act. How rules are notified in Official Gazette? > > > > >3) Can PIO of GP make the rules as described above? > > > > >4) Can PIO of GP apply two different fees to two >different > > > > >applicants? > > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------- > > > > >Humbly requesting valuable inputs with case studies which will >help > > > > >me obtain information and/ or file further appeal with IC. > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > >Avinash Murkute > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BIMAL KUMAR KHEMANI > > > > Saha-Prant Sangathan Mantri, > > > > AKHIL BHARATIYA GRAHAK PANCHAYAT BRAJ PRANT, > > > > 2/40D, Janakpuri, Marrish Road, > > > > ALIGARH-202001. INDIA > > > > Phone:0571-2401557, MOB:-093597BIMAL > > > > e.mail: bimal.khemani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BIMAL KUMAR KHEMANI > > Saha-Prant Sangathan Mantri, > > AKHIL BHARATIYA GRAHAK PANCHAYAT BRAJ PRANT, > > 2/40D, Janakpuri, Marrish Road, > > ALIGARH-202001. INDIA > > Phone:0571-2401557, MOB:-093597BIMAL > > e.mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > BIMAL KUMAR KHEMANI Saha-Prant Sangathan Mantri, AKHIL BHARATIYA GRAHAK PANCHAYAT BRAJ PRANT, 2/40D, Janakpuri, Marrish Road, ALIGARH-202001. INDIA Phone:0571-2401557, MOB:-093597BIMAL e.mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
