Dear Bimal-ji It is with a heavy heart that I write this. I suspect that due to this conversation 3 members left our group. So there is a cost to be paid for truth.
Let me make it crystal clear - the name of this group is "RTI_India". "India" is as important as RTI to us. If this is a temple it is also a church or mosque. IF we consider ourselves to be "Indian" THEN we are necessarily secular patriotic citizens ELSE (?). This does not equate with what is called RSS fascism or "modern Hindutva of Savarkar". I can easily quote / cite Holy Quran or Bible to bring out the same principles of Bhagvad Gita (which incidentally my own religion does not allow me to accept as authentic scripture but commands me to respect as I am also commanded to respect Bible, Quran, Veda, Granth Sahib etc.). Perhaps members more knowledgeable than me can contribute these first. If the membership dwindles further it is divine will. For our purposes there is one aspect of yesterday's discussion I did not bring out then. Lord Krishna tells Arjun "Causing Oppression is a Sin, BUT *Tolerating* oppression is a graver sin". IMHO there is no religion in the world which propounds *always* turning the other cheek. Any member of this group with Yahoo ID can contact me or any other contributing member. The way to do this is to login at Yahoo and "Reply" (either online or by email) to that member's message taking due care that the "To" field is only to the concerned member and not the group. It is also polite to indicate in the Subject line that the message is "DIRECT" or "OFFLIST". the URL of this group is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rti_india/ Finally, It is good that you are "friend of friends", BUT to use RTI properly we must also be "enemy of enemies". Sarbajit --- In [email protected], "sroy1947" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Bimal-ji > > 1) Concerning Hypocrisy: As you know me better (in this group) you may > discover that I am not a hypocrite. Sometimes first impressions can be > deceptive. Yes I am brusque, rude , arrogant and all those other > things, but I am also very humble, patient, honest, true and direct. > You will see ('darsan') of all these other avatars also in this purest > temple of RTI which we call RTI_India - and it is not me but *our* > collective spirit. > > 2) Concerning honouring others: As Lord Krishna guides Arjuna in > Bhagvad Gita, "Think not of your relatives, these are all immortal > souls on their way to being one with the Supreme Lord - Brahman. Do > your duty and leave the outcome to God. Hesitate not, pick up your > sword / bow and fight - Don't think of the consequences.". In our > group we do not show partiality towards anyone (by honorifics) for > that would dishonour others, but neither do we flinch from exposing > Untruth. We respect everyone who is here seeking Truth and thereby > Purpose in Life. We especially value those who are working for the > benefit of others / society and not themselves, and these are not > empty words but backed by deeds. > > 3) Concerning the specifics of my remarks to you. This is a group for > winners - or to be more precise "non-losers" - of RTI. I cannot > promise you victory BUT I can promise you that if you follow our > group's principles you will not lose too badly. As you know we are > facing a completely biased and rotten system for RTI. It is my open > challenge that if I was a PIO and say IC.A.N.Tewary applied to me in > RTI - I can ensure that even he would not get a scrap of worthwhile > information via this stupid law. We are here to show you ways around > this Act to achieve your purpose, which is why Col Kurup calls us (not > *me*) "one and only". I am not going to tell you why you were wrong > and I made that remark - Sir you know the answer already (the RTI fee > and *COST* Rules for Maharashtra) - lets get over with it and on to > Truth and Victory!!! > > Sarbajit > > --- In [email protected], "Bimal Khemani" <bimal.khemani@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sarbajit > > I was more perturbed with your yeasterdays remarks and would like to > discontinue my name from ur mailing list, since I do not want to keep > any relation with hypocrates not honouring others > > > > > > On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 colnrkurup wrote : > > > > > >Thank you very much. Do you know for what ? You are the one and only > > >person who is now agreeing with my naming last years's "Information > > >Commissioner's Conference " as a " Conference for collective > > >bargaining " You have now used a better term - " Trade Union > > >Conference" > > > > > >Col NR Kurup (Retd) > > > > > > > > >--- In [email protected], "Bimal Khemani" <bimal.khemani@> > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks for your mail, and would be excused for my comments > > > > but I do not think I tried to misguide my fellow member > > > > > > > > >
