Thanks to you all regards Dr. JN Sharma On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Indur Chhugani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> > All those who have power, to implement the law or pass orders citing the > law, which includes the so called Hon'ble Judges of the High Court treat the > law as their pet dog. > > "Moti bite that man, he is questioning our authority" or "Moti go to that > corner and shut your eyes, this man is my friend, he is from the police". > > Thereafter they twist their reasonings and cite the law. > The law has to be implemented, by using a little common sense, which those > in power have but misuse, to favour the corrupt and those, who can provide > favours after retirement or even while they are still in the same post. > > I K Chhugani > http://www.RoguePolice.com <http://www.roguepolice.com/> ... 098201 71571 > > > I K Chhugani > http://www.RoguePolice.com <http://www.roguepolice.com/> > Mobile 091 98201 71571 > > --- On Wed, 10/29/08, Jagnarain Sharma <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]<jagnarain.sharma%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > From: Jagnarain Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<jagnarain.sharma%40gmail.com> > > > Subject: [rti_india] Re: [HumJanenge] Why Information Commission is NOT > part of judiciary > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <HumJanenge%40yahoogroups.co.in>, "RTI4" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <rti4empowerment%40yahoogroups.com>>, > "urvashi sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<rtimahilamanchup%40gmail.com>>, > "robby sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <sharmarobby%40hotmail.com>>, "Dr. > Leo Rebello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <prof.leorebello%40gmail.com>>, > "Sidharth rti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <sidharthbbsr%40gmail.com>>, > "RTI_india" <[email protected] <RTI_india%40yahoogroups.com>>, > "RTI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <budgam_social%40rediffmail.com>>, > "Anti Bribery Campaign" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]<antibriberycampaign%40yahoogroups.com>>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <ashish.tripathi%40timesgroup.com>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <amrita.singh%40timesgroup.com>, "Prof. Abdul > Kalam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <apj%40abdulkalam.com>>, "Bibek Anand" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <sampadaway%40gmail.com>>, "N.A. Shah Ansari" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <ansari.youngindia%40gmail.com>>, "Arvind > Kejriwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<parivartan_india%40rediffmail.com>>, > "Bimal Khemani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<bimal.khemani%40rediffmail.com>>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <batra_lokesh%40yahoo.com>, "bobby ramakant" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <bobbyramakant%40yahoo.com>>, "I K Chhugani" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <ikchhugani%40yahoo.com>>, "milap choraria" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <milap_choraria%40yahoo.com>>, "Colonel batra > noida RTi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <lkbatra%40rediffmail.com>>, "Dr. Manoj > Srivastava" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <conscious_brain%40yahoo.com>>, > "Krishna Dhirendra" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <dhirendra.krishna%40yahoo.com>>, "espshukla" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <espshukla%40gmail.com>>, "dauji gupta" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <daujigupta%40hotmail.com>>, "Mahendra Gaur" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mahendragaur%40gmail.com>>, "Grouply" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <noreply%40grouply.com>>, "HELPO Foundation, Pune - > INDIA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <helpo%40vsnl.com>>, "Wajahat Habibullah" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <whabibullah%40nic.in>>, "Jane MacRoss" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <highfield1%40activ8.net.au>>, "irfan khan" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <rtirti.khan%40gmail.com>>, "IZHAR AHMAD" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <rti.lucknow%40rediffmail.com>>, "kamalt9999" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <kamalt9999%40yahoo.co.in>>, "manishmohit_manish" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <manishmohit_manish%40yahoo.com>>, > "nirajklko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <nirajklko%40yahoo.com>> > Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 12:10 PM > > Dear Krishnaraj Rao, > > Wish you a Happy Diwali. > > your views on a message of Ramesh Bhai are very informative and also > interesting. > Yes ! the Information Commission is indeed not a part of the judiciary > as CIC and SIC falls under the Department of Personnel & Training, as is > evident from their websites. > Yes ! Information Commission has power to pronounce orders on issues on > giving information. It can only pass orders under RTI Act 2005 and can pass > orders imposing penalties on those designated as PIO. > > Yes ! no lawyers need to represent either side on any legal issue arising > out of the information needed to be furnished. > > Yes ! Those aggrieved by Information Commission's orders may go to High > Court. But this can be avoided and RTI Activists joined together > can convince the CIC to take appropriate action against the PIO or any one > else connected to the furnishing of information. We all should have faith > in the RTI's Highest authority i.e. CIC. > > Yes ! your doubt is very reasonable that common citizens believe that the > High Court is an effective forum for gaining justice. > > Yes ! Your observations are also very much correct as you have stated that > '' having had the misfortune of filing two PILs in Bombay High Court, I say > with some experience that it is a nonsensical forum, where hollow > procedures > are given importance while factual positions, truth and justice are > sidelined. Most people who set foot in those graveyards only see > black-coated hyaenas and pompous vultures daily murdering justice and feed > on the rotting corpse.'' > Despite this several High courts have been pleased to have passed > favourable > orders in favour of RTI Activists. > > Yes ! You have correctly said that '' All the RTI Activists and common > people are raising their voices TO DEFEND the RTI Act, and safeguard it > from bureaucrats and others who are trying to stifle this legislation to > death '' . > Yes ! Most interestingly you have observed that: > '' RTI Activists are raising their voices against judgements passed > by courts.'' > You have further correctly observed: > '' Insha-allah, many of us shall soon do that also! I am quite sure > that one day in 2009, a number of us citizens will rise in courts to say, > "Milord, we consider your order in such-and-such a case as absurd, and for > your blatant lack of integrity, intelligence and respect of the citizens > and > the Law of this land, we hold you in contempt. We, the people of India, > pronounce you as incompetent and corrupt, and we urge you to send us to > prison for contempt of court." > In a meeting held at Mumbai on 19-10-2008 at the residence of Dr. > Leo Rebello, Major Ravi has circulated a paper in which he has described > ---'' who will judge the Judges '' > As an experiment I am taking up and intiating appropriate action on > the matter of ---'' corruption in judiciary ''-- As such you have > correctly remarked---- --'' Wo subah kabhi tho aayegi ! ''---------- Yes be > affirmative- ---'' JAROOR AAYEGI '' > WITH GREAT LOVE AND SEASON'S WARM GREETINGS AND REGARDS > DR. J.N. SHARMA > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Ramesh Chheda < > ramesh_chheda@ yahoo.co. uk>wrote: > > > The title given is incorrect. The Information commissioner is sitting in > > the place of juduciary position . And also if any person is aggrieved by > > order of the CIC, then is to challenge said order before the High Court > by > > way of writ. Nothing will help you by discussing accross this > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
