My RTI friend Mr. C.H. Ram from Bangalore had filed RTI application 
to the Karnataka Information Commission questioning the  discretion 
of the KIC while imposing penalty on erring PIO's, we had put forth 
arguments stating that the Act doesnot state anwhere that the 
Commission is having any discretion in imposing penalty, in the last 
hearing the KIC is quoting Oxford dictionary for explanation
(meaning) and substantiating this, we had objected the version of 
KIC. In many cases once the KIC decides for imposing penalty they 
don't have any discretion they have to impose penalty @ the rate of 
Rs.250/- per day of delay till the information is supplied (but KIC 
had imposed only Rs.500/-, Rs.1,000/- Rs,3000/- as they like, 
quoting the discretionary clause in the last case the actually the 
penalty should have been Rs.22,500/- but imposed only Rs.3,000/-.   
The full bench hearing is posted for hearing to-morrow(13.11.2008) @ 
3-30 PM. 

With regards,
Anil



--- In [email protected], "sroy1947" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear Members
> 
> One of the biggest stumbling blocks to RTI implementation is the
> non-levy of penalty on errant PIOs by the Information Commissions.
> 
> These johnnies labour under the delusion that penalty is a
> discretionary option open to them in case of non-supply of
> information in the time prescribed u/s 7(1).
> 
> Is there some problem in the wording of the clause?
> 
> No, when a PIO fails to give in information in time he is to
> be penalised at the rate of Rs.250 per day. No IFS no BUTs.
> 
> The relevant part of the clause would read as follows
> 
> "Where the Central Information Commission or the State Information
> Commission, as the case may be, at the time of deciding any 
complaint
> or appeal is of the opinion that the Central Public Information
> Officer or the State Public Information Officer, as the case may 
be,
> has, without any reasonable cause, ... has not furnished 
information
> within the time specified under sub-section (1) of section 7 ... it
> shall impose a penalty of two hundred and fifty rupees each day 
till
> application is received or information is furnished, so however, 
the
> total amount of such penalty shall not exceed twenty-five thousand
> rupees:"
> 
> The only defence a PIO has is PROVING there was "reasonable cause"
> 
> So the next time any member want penalty imposed on a PIO
> 
> 1) Insist on being present at the penalty hearing to "disprove" the
> "reasonable ground/s" of the PIO. Ask for copies of the proof in 
advance.
> 
> 2) Dispute with ICs like Habibullah and Tiwari who insist that
> "allegation of malafides" is an essential ingredient to levy 
penalty.
> Insist they record your attendance and subimissions in their 
orders.
> Follow this up with a SPEEDPOST letter to them immediately after 
they
> pass such biased orders demanding that they review their order
> immediately in light of the above - which as we all know they wont.
>  
> 3) Then if you want to fight it out, email me , and we shall sort 
them
> out.
> 
> This link is an example of how the biggest sinners in awarding
> penalties (they were running a racket ripping off PIOs) later 
became
> saints (briefly) on the side of the angels after we took it up
> (discreetly). Of course since the GoI pays out-station ICs peanuts
> they are back to their little monkey tricks again.
> 
> http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Orders/OK-18072008-01.pdf
> 
> Sarbajit
> 
> Full text of section 20(1)
> 
> "20(1)        Where the Central Information Commission or the State
> Information Commission, as the case may be, at the time of deciding
> any complaint or appeal is of the opinion that the Central Public
> Information Officer or the State Public Information Officer, as the
> case may be, has, without any reasonable cause, refused to receive 
an
> application for information or has not furnished information within
> the time specified under sub-section (1) of section 7 or malafidely
> denied the request for information or knowingly given incorrect,
> incomplete or misleading information or destroyed information which
> was the subject of the request or obstructed in any manner in
> furnishing the information, it shall impose a penalty of two 
hundred
> and fifty rupees each day till application is received or 
information
> is furnished, so however, the total amount of such penalty shall 
not
> exceed twenty-five thousand rupees:
>                       
> Provided that the Central Public Information Officer or the State
> Public Information Officer, as the case may be, shall be given a
> reasonable opportunity of being heard before any penalty is 
imposed on
> him:
> 
> Provided further that the burden of proving that he acted 
reasonably
> and diligently shall be on the Central Public Information Officer 
or
> the State Public Information Officer, as the case may be."
>


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