Dear Mr S.K.Jain
 
Don't you know, Police and ICs are in hand and gloves?, Please read Information 
Commissioners orders in RTI applications against Police, you will find the 
answer. Has any Information commissioner levied penality on any PIO of Police? 
There is saying " CHOR CHOR MUSEREY BHAI"
 
S.K.Kapoor

--- On Thu, 5/21/09, S. K. Jain <[email protected]> wrote:


From: S. K. Jain <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [rti_india] A night at Arthur Rd jail for RTI activists
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 10:36 PM








Is Credentials of Super Intelligent Extra Ordinary Highly Talented 
Dr Suresh Vinyakyrao Joshi available somewhere on Internet ? His 
marvellous achievement as noble action of sending RTI activist to 
Jail should be sent to all information commissions, Human Rights, 
Civil Activists, and his nomination for bravery award to awarding 
authorities throughout the world and not India alone.

Singing National Anthem is not crime but pride and honour. Perhaps Dr 
Suresh Vinakayrao Joshi does not understand the importance of 
National Anthem. He needs to study the past of National Heros as 
freedom fighters from Maharashtra who were sent to perish at Kala 
Pani jails when India was slave of British regime. He needs to study 
about Bal Gangadhar Tilak, Shivaji.

If SIC functions like court, has he forgotten judicial oath, 
judiciary reforms ? What can Dr Suresh Vinayakrao Joshi do to 
activate non-vigilant sleeping authorities when Mumbai was burning 
with terror by terrorists whose information commission with powerful 
network without the need for any appeal/complaint by their bosses on 
satellite phone and satellite images was far better than entire 
Commissions of India combined together ? There is difference between 
common citizens and terrorists and it will be much better if Dr 
Suresh Vinakayrao Joshi as information commissioner explain the 
difference publicly ?

Sanjiv Kumar Jain
New Delhi

At 08:56 PM 5/21/2009, LESLIE ALMEIDA wrote:

>Dear RTI applicants,
>
>The Police is the pocket of SIC Suresh Joshi, as most 2nd appeal 
>appeals against Police go to SIC who soft peddle on the Police 
>force, so as such the Police have rewarded Suresh Joshi, as per my 
>observations, i had been at one such meeting earlier, Suresh Joshi 
>is an adamant commissioner, who do not seem to reason out things, he 
>soft peddles on erring PIO's
>this act of his is highly condemable,I do not know if singing the 
>National anthem is against the Law. it is sung at many places, as 
>Jogesh Pratap singh rightly pointed out this is an office where one 
>can go to lodge their grievences, not house tresspassing, nor can 
>one claim it to be rioting,and i do not think there was any rioting 
>or assult on SIC, Krish and his team will not stoop that low they 
>are not holligians ,there may have been some heated argument as 2 
>orders are passed by Haranaya H.C. and Delhi High court about 
>penalties of Rs 25,000 being made mandatory as per the RTI act, 
>Suresh Joshi being cornered and has taken his vengance on theses Activists.
>It is time that in Public interest Suresh Joshi should step down as CSIC
>or feel the heat from affected RTI applicants, who all curse and abuse him.
>I have been there several times for hearings, and i know what it is like.
>the office staff are courtise and helpful, and there is a coller with
>really cold water to cool one's nerves, one really needs cold water 
>at theses places.
>somehow 3 of my 2nd appeals only Rs 5000 per appeal has been slamped 
>on erring PIO that too to be deducted from his salary in 5 installments,
>these order was passed by Ramanand Tiwari whom seem to be an 
>intelligent man he sees how much an applicant knows of the act,right 
>arguments to the point is important,my other appeals before Suresh 
>Joshi's is still going on no orders passed as yet,
>if anyone has the same problem they can come to the Helpline at the 
>below mentioned address,
>
>RTI free helpline St.Andrews church premises room no 1 Hill road
>near holy family Hospital Bandra west Mumbai 400050 open every 
>saturday 9.30 to 11 am to any citizen irrespective of religion caste or creed.
>or contact me on e-mail
>
>Leslie Almeida

>A night at Arthur Rd jail for RTI activists
>21 May 2009, 0131 hrs IST, Viju B, TNN
>
>
>MUMBAI: Metropolitan magistrate S M Chintembakar on Wednesday 
>remanded 11 arrested RTI activists in judicial custody after they 
>failed to produce a
>surety of Rs 20,000. The magistrate rejected their plea to produce a 
>bail for the same amount.
>
>The activists-Krishna Raj Rao, Gaurang Vora, Mohammed Afzal, Sunil 
>Ahya, Mukund Parekh, Vijay Chauhan, Sanjay Ghadalia, K N Singh, Ravi 
>Haldipore, Dr Shrikant Prabhu and Pramod Kadam-were arrested by the 
>Marine Drive police on Tuesday for creating a ruckus at the office 
>of the state information commissioner (SIC), Suresh Joshi. The 
>police were called in by Joshi after the activists protested against 
>his alleged callous attitude to their grievances. The police had 
>booked them for house trespass, rioting, unlawful assembly and 
>assault on a government servant. "How can meeting someone in an 
>office be termed as a house trespass? This is not applicable in this 
>case,'' said Y P Singh, IPS officer turned lawyer.
>
>A senior SIC official said the activists should have maintained 
>decorum as as the SIC functions like a court. "We have been trying 
>to accommodate their grievances and giving them time to address 
>these issues,'' the official said.

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