Dear Mr Roy, To some extent you are right. But unfortunately, not fighting corruption through RTI, I do not agree with you.
My Regret. Trivendra On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:19 PM, sroy1947 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > This refers to your queries, answered in seriatim :- > > 1) You should NOT use RTI to ask for salaries pending for 3 years. You > SHOULD use your alternate remedies instead. > > 2), 3) RTI Act is NOT to be used to fight corruption DIRECTLY. Corruption > is a fact of life, and corruption is a necessary evil - I stress > "necessary". Using RTI Act to "fight" corruption will only encourage it and > make you a frustrated person. > > 4) When you joined public service you took an oath to serve the public. > When there is power shortage, you should remember that you are a public > "servant" and should be content with what you have. > > 5) Regarding time periods, I say that that you Sir are impractical. When > even after 4 years the Hon'ble CIC cannot ensure that public authority > provides me copy of its governing an Act of Parliament you can be sure that > RTI is dead. All "we" are doping is poking the corpse and stripping it bare. > > Sarbajit > > > --- In [email protected] <rti_india%40yahoogroups.com>, Trivendra > <trivendra.sha...@...> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr Roy > > > > I would like to bring to your kind notice > > > > (1) Should one not ask for salary through RTI paymant which is pending > for > > last 3 years (this fact is relivent in reference to 32000 teachers > appointed > > in primary education department in uttar paradesh and every teacher in > > his/her personal capacity). > > > > (2) The teacher after retirement above 10 years has not got service > period > > benefits as he/she could not grease the palm of officers. > > > > (3) Illegal construction done by few on the greasing some govt officials, > > should one not file an RTI application. > > > > (4) recently UP govt has a derive for increasing power load to public but > > not for its officials should it not be asked in personal capacity under > RTI > > on account of which there is frequent power cut. > > > > > > Precisely speaking I mean to say that there are many topics which seem us > to > > be of personl nature on sitting in New Delhi; use of RTI is such cases is > > suggested to be not preferred, but how the people get relief from > miseries > > they suffer so economicaly. > > > > People of the country need much more speedy relief from their suffering > than > > envisaged in RTI (30 days). I have alredy written in my previous mail > that > > the time of 30 days allowed for reply be reduced gradully to 15 days. In > > case it is reduced to 10 days I shall welcome that day with firm belief > that > > most of the information by that day shall be in public domin instead of > > files in bookselfs. > > > > Regards > > > > Trivendra > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:40 PM, sroy1947 <sroy1...@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > For many years this group has stood for a certain brand of RTI > > > which included ALL the following pre-requisites > > > > > > a) Filing RTIs only if absolutely necessary, > > > > > > b) Filing RTIs only after throughly checking out the PA's > > > proactive disclosure (especially on their website), > > > > > > c) Filing RTIs in the larger public interest, > > > > > > d) Filing RTIs after anticipating and considering all the > > > PIOs potential exemptions / tactics, > > > > > > e) OPPOSING disclosure of "file notings" and victimisation of > > > honest officers by RTI etc. > > > > > > This philosophy was evolved after observing that ALL the 'haraamis' > > > of RTI were proposing the exact opposite ie, > > > > > > a) File as many RTIs as you want - there is no bar in the RTI Act > > > > > > b) Section 4 and section 6 operate in 2 different/ distinct spheres > > > (section 4 is what "they" GIVE you - section 6 is what "we" TAKE from > > > "them"). > > > > > > c) File RTIs to sort out your private grievances against Municipality, > > > Police, service matters etc etc. > > > > > > d) You dont need to read RTI Act, just keep asking "questions", > "queries" > > > etc to the PIO and he must "reply" to you in 30 days or else be > penalised. > > > > > > e) It is only through seeing file notings that you will be able to > identify > > > the dishonest and corrupt officers. > > > > > > The most public proponent of this other brand of RTI was the late > Prakash > > > Kardaley - founder of HJ (who incidentally claimed never to have filed > an > > > RTI in his life). > > > > > > At the end of the day - it is upto you to choose what style of RTI you > wish > > > to practice - for this reveals what kind of person you are. I have made > my > > > choice a long time back. > > > > > > Sarbajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Try to be part of solution. It will add your value > > > > > -- Try to be part of solution. It will add your value
