Dear friends,
I respectfully beg to differ from the interpretation given by Sarbajit to
the phrase "held by". "Held by" as a phrase indicates physical possession of
a document by a public authority. This has been made crystal clear by the
Delhi High Court in the CPIO, Supreme Court v S C Agarwal case. Critics may
say that the Delhi HC decision has been challenged before the SCI. I do not
think in this case the SCI is arguing on the definition of the term 'held
by'. Their problem is about coverage of the RTI Act vis-a-vis the CJI's
office and other ancillary issues.
 
If a document is placed in the public domain it does not disappear from the
possession of the public authority. the hard and soft copies of the document
continue to be held by that public authority unless they have legitimately
destroyed it. Similarly the mere fact that something has been placed in the
public domain does not ensure that it stays there and is easily accessible
to people. We need to move beyond the bureaucratic perspective of looking
upon the 'public domain' as a notional sphere to turning it into a
functional domain. From a functional perspective unless a document is
accessible in the office of the public authority on demand, immediately or
in a publicly accessible library or on a noticeboard for all times to come,
or most importantly on the Internet, it must be treated as information that
is not available in the public domain. 
 
For example, publishing something in the gazette places information in the
public domain. But it does not ensure that it stays there and is easily
accessible to people. Copies of gazette notifications get exhausted. the
e-gazette database is accessible only on subscription. Unless  some
department has made its gazette notifications openly accessible on its
website, the information is as good as not being available in the public
domain. Sarbajit and I have knocked our heads on DDA's doors trying to get
them to place on their website all their Rules notified in the gazette over
the years. This is because they are no longer accessible at any place except
through personal contacts with those who may have saved copies meticulousy.
This case alone is enough to demonstrate that what is placed in the public
domain does not necessarily stay there or is easily accessible to everybody.

 
At least one copy of the information placed in the public domain must be
presumed to be available with the concerned public authority. So what is
there in the law to prevent any citizen from seeking it under S. 6(1)? And
where in S 7(1) or S* or S9 does it say that what is proactively disclosed
under S. 4(1)(b) cannot be provided in response to an application under
S6(1).
 
This kind of interpretation unfortunately has found its way in some previous
decisions of the CIC also. With due respect to the wisdom of the CIC it must
be said that such interpretations are bad in law and as activists we must
challenge them before the appropriate authorities at appropriate moments.
 
The question that Sarbajit needs to ponder over is why has he litigated for
so long before the CIC for the DDA Rules when according to his own
definition they are already in the public domain. 
Thanks
Venkat
 
 
 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of sarbajitr
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 11:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [rti_india] Re: interpreation of Section 2(f) and 2(J)


  

Dear Anurag

The query is not very clear.

Circulars are supposed to be proactively disseminated under section 4. Once
disseminated under section 4, they are in the public domain and no longer
"held by or under control of" the public authority - and hence cannot be
provided under section 6 process.

Sarbajit

--- In [email protected] <mailto:rti_india%40yahoogroups.com> ,
anurag prasad <yanuragpra...@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Hello everyone
> 
> Can anybody interpret section 2(f) and 2(j) . One of the public authority
resorted to transfer a request under section 6(3) of the Act . The
receipient public authority ( who received the request under section 6(3) )
infered that the information is to be provided by the original public
authortiy and informed the applicant to receive the information from the
original public authrority. The information was sought by his was circular
issued by administrative ministry of his organisation and the requester is
an employee of subordinate office of the same administrative ministry. 
> 
> 
> Anurag
>




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