Dear Sarbajit,
Like I said before, the human rights discourse is much more complex than
what it is portrayed to be in the layperson's understanding. Rights do not
vest in an individual as a reward for duties performed. They arise and vest
because of the inherent dignity of the human being which he/she is entitled
to, therefore they are not directly linked with the performance of duties.
But since this is not a forum for discussing human rights I rest this matter
here.
 
You also need to look at the statement of objects and reasons of the RTI
Bill as tabled in Parliament in 2004. The RTI Act was brought in to give
effect to the implied fundamental right to information. It as not been
downgraded. Instead a system and a mechanism has been created for the
exercise of this fundmental right and that has been given primacy over OSA.
If we miss this point then we end up misleading other members of this group.
RTI is not merely a statutory right. It is a law that gives effect to a
dundamental right. This has been recognised in several HC decision on RTI
matters but some HCs I would respectfully say got it wrong when they held
that it is a statutory right in addition to the fundamental right to know.
Any good government will pass laws to promote, fulfil and protect rights.
That is why NREGA was passed protecting the right to livelihood and a just
wage for people in rural areas, Prevention of Torture Bill is being debated
to provide for a system where torture can be prevented or wher it occurs it
can be dealt with (but the Bill is crazily drafted). By passing a law to
enable the exercise a fundamental right, that right does not get downgraded.
Of course section 8 contains more restrictions than the list of reasonable
restrictions found in article 19(2). Again I rest my case on this issue.
Thanks
Venkat
 
 
 
 
 

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Dear Venkat,

1) Let me express my sadness that you have chosen not to participate in the
discussion here. As a member of this group, you would have doubtless
observed the steps taken by us to ensure that the decks here are kept clear
for a high level of civilised discourse / debate on pure RTI.

2) I hope that you will participate in taking this discussion to a logical
conclusion notwithstanding our individual public positions. There are no
winners or losers in such discussions - just a desire to ensure that our
members get exposed to all possible viewpoints on the interpretations
involved - and reach their own independent conclusions.

3) As I have oft stated, including on this platform, by the RTI Act 2005,
the court conferred Fundamental Right to Information has been downgraded to
an ordinary right enforceable only under the provisions of the Act. If I was
to take this stand in a superior court, there is no court in the country
which would disagree with me, for with the passage of the Act all the
previous decisions of the Courts have been rendered obsolete.

4) On your position on jural duties as the opposite of right, The Indian
Constitution clearly specifies the duties of citizens (separate chapter) in
addition to 

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