Your query is now simple to answer

1) You applied to your employer ("PA-1") for a circular issued by "PA-2". Since 
the ORIGINAL RECORD is not held by or under the control of PA-1 the request was 
transferred to PA-2.

2) PA-2 then transfers it back to PA-1 because by virtue of section 4(1)(b)(v) 
PA-1 is required to proactively publish those records which are used by 
employees of the P/A to discharge its functions.

3) PA-2 is correct thus far because the purpose of proactive dissemination u/s 
4 is to obviate the usage of section 6 process by citizens.

Sarbajit

--- In [email protected], anurag prasad <yanuragpra...@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Â 
> Sir,
> Â 
> I have sought information from my subordinate office to provide me circular 
> how my increments have been regulated and copy of the circulars. On this the 
> PIO of my office transfered the case, though he has having the copy of the 
> circular, under section 6(3) of the act to my headquaters i.e administrative 
> ministry. Based on this, the PIO of the administrative ministry replied that 
> the circular may please be issued to him, as his pay and allowances were 
> regulated by that order in the subordinate office. And they were interpreting 
> that section 2 f and and section 2 j read togheter . If that the case, the 
> Goverment of India consisiting of close to 85 departments issues variours 
> circulars, why, can not host it on their webistes and instruct the offices 
> subordinate to them to place on thier individual websites. The reading of the 
> sections togehter section 2 f and 2 j is conflicting as goverment of 
> india/dopt declared that the each public authority is a third
>  party . Please offer u r expert comments please  
> 
> --- On Wed, 5/19/10, sarbajitr <sroy1...@...> wrote:
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> From: sarbajitr <sroy1...@...>
> Subject: [rti_india] Re: interpreation of Section 2(f) and 2(J)
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 3:11 AM
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> Â  
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Anurag
> 
> The query is not very clear.
> 
> Circulars are supposed to be proactively disseminated under section 4. Once 
> disseminated under section 4, they are in the public domain and no longer 
> "held by or under control of" the public authority - and hence cannot be 
> provided under section 6 process.
> 
> Sarbajit
> 
> --- In [email protected], anurag prasad <yanuragprasad@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Hello everyone
> > 
> > Can anybody interpret section 2(f) and 2(j) . One of the public authority 
> > resorted to transfer a request under section 6(3) of the Act . The 
> > receipient public authority ( who received the request under section 6(3) ) 
> > infered that the information is to be provided by the original public 
> > authortiy and informed the applicant to receive the information from the 
> > original public authrority. The information was sought by his was circular 
> > issued by administrative ministry of his organisation and the requester is 
> > an employee of subordinate office of the same administrative ministry. 
> > 
> > 
> > Anurag
> >
>


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