On Fri, August 17, 2007 15:24, Jan Kiszka wrote:

>>>>>  > Ok, since we discussed that in xenomai mailinglist yesterday and
>>>>> there
>>>>>  > seems to be no solution with my bios,
>>>>> There is one solution which you refused to try.
>>>> Not refused, just postponed. What I suppose is, that my rtnet problem
>>>> is
>>>> independent from the xenomai problem because of the mentioned reasons,
>>>> and
>>>> that's what I wanted to find out to save some time in installing
>>>> everything new and finding out that it's a completely different
>>>> problem.
>>> Your slave utterly fails to send its calibration request frame on time.
>>> It misses its slot by more than 200 cycles (yeah, 400 ms, I packed my
>>> calculator already as well), and this is a fairly unusual behaviour,
>>> very likely due to timer latency issues of the underlying hardware (or
>>> RTOS, but that's less likely).
>>> If you don't believe this, start instrumenting (printk etc.) TDMA and
>>> compare the time it wants to sleep for its slot to the time it actually
>>> does. I would be surprised if the delay is already wrong (not saying
>>> that this is absolutely impossible, but very unlikely given your other
>>> reports).
>> It wasn't a question of believing. That my xenomai timing is out of any
>> acceptible range is not a question. That my slave is not able to send
>> the
>> requests in time, too. What I was just wondering about is the fact, that
>> a
>> master on the same machine is able to do cycle times under 2 ms (same
> Hmm, I have some theory about this, but it's too speculative ATM.
>> behaviour with two identical cloned machines, so no hardware problem).
>> If
> You mean you cloned the _slave_ setup to two different boxes (different
> mainboards at least) and the issue persists? I must have overread this
> "minor" hint then. In that case we would face a software issue, and I
> would take everything back.

I meant I cloned the harddisk. We ordered two identical HP machines, same
hardware, same boards. We installed one and cloned the installation to the
other.
Both work as a master with an embedded system as slave perfectly. Both
fail to work as a slave with the other machine as a master. Of course both
have the same Xenomai latencies.
If it is a general Bios problem with the SMI, to my opinion it's clear
that it fails on both machines then.

>> you tell me, it's nevertheless the Xenomai problem, I have no doubt it
>> is
>> like that. I will report what 2.6.2 will do.
> Again: If you slave issue if "portable" across different hardware and
> even Xenomai versions, we need to step into RTnet debugging as sketched
> earlier. This need not take much time as already the first action of the
> slave fails. If you go that way and need more hints where to look, let
> me know.

It's important for me to find the reason and a solution for that problem,
for my diploma or afterwards, since the system should work one day ;)
Two machines, yes, different hardware, no. So I'm thankful for every hint
I get.

Greets, Nadym


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