Hi,
I would like to start discussion, whether packaged rubygems should 
include cached gem file.
I'm seeing shift from "should exclude cached .gem file" to "must exclude 
cached .gem file". I tried to search archive of this mailing list for 
discussion about this, but find none.

While current guidelines does not address this:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Ruby#RubyGems

In discussion page:
   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging_talk:Ruby#Cached_.gem_file
is this text:

 > The package *should* exclude the cached .gem file in files section:
 >   %exclude %{gemdir}/cache/%{gemname}-%{version}.gem
 >Since the gem is installed using RPM, it makes no sense to include the
 >cached .gem file. This file is used typically with 'gem pristine'
 >command to restore gem into its original state, but this could be
 >achieved by equivalent RPM command.

And in draft:
   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Ruby
is even:
   Since the Gem is installed using RPM, you *must* exclude the .gem file.

And this is even what is in current fedora-review(1) as in its output is:
[x]: MUST Gem package must exclude cached Gem.

I do not understand why it is MUST item. And anyway, why it could not be 
present.
I would like to have cached gem in final package. I will tell you why.
I have several collegues, which develop application for Fedora, but they 
develop on MacOS.
Usually they download rubygems from rubygems.org. But sometimes Fedora 
version of rubygem has patch applied.
In such case when we do:

%prep
gem unpack %{SOURCE0}
%setup -q -D -T -n  %{gem_name}-%{version}
gem spec %{SOURCE0} -l --ruby > %{gem_name}.gemspec
%patch0 -p1

%build
...
gem build %{gem_name}.gemspec

the resulting gem file is different (compared to rubygem.org version). 
If cached gem file is present in package, they can easily extract it and 
use this one - because sometimes the behaviour is different (compared to 
rubygem.org version).
And if I correctly understood 'gem pristine' - it will not help here as 
it will not create .gem file with those security patches.

So what I would like to see, is to have cached gem present in package. 
At list for packages containing patch.

But since people have tendency to forget ("Oh, security problem. Lets 
add patch." days/month later: "You forgot to add cached .gem." "Sorry") 
- I would suggest to include cached gem always (i.e. MUST item). But I 
understood that sometimes it can be very hard to repackage gem, as it 
can be old and may miss some required metadata, so I would say it SHOULD 
include cached gem.

Opinions?
-- 
Miroslav Suchy
Red Hat Systems Management Engineering
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