Hi Michael,

I'll send the patch with this modification only, thanks.

cheers

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Michael Koziarski <[email protected]>wrote:

> the has_one case makes sense, sure.
>
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Diego Carrion <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Ok, what about the has_one association?
> > cheers
> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Jeremy Kemper <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ditto. Using touch actually obscures the intent of your code.
> >>
> >> Touch means set updated_at timestamp, that's all. Not "re-evaluate all
> >> children."
> >>
> >> -1
> >>
> >> jeremy
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Pratik <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > Agree with what Koz said. This isn't needed very frequently and it's
> >> > easier to just use a before/after save callback if/when it's needed.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Diego Carrion <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> Hi Michael,
> >> >> in my case, an user gets only updated when he puts more money in his
> >> >> account
> >> >> or when some of his money is taken because one of his advertises was
> >> >> clicked. In this moment, all his advertises must be reevaluated to
> >> >> determine
> >> >> if they're enabled or not.
> >> >> I agree with you I can add the behavior with one line but it's less
> >> >> elegant.
> >> >> I thinks this is the reason the belongs_to associations gained the
> >> >> touch
> >> >> option.
> >> >> I also agree with you this can lead to a bad performance in the
> >> >> application
> >> >> but a lot of things in the Rails framework can lead to a bad
> >> >> performance,
> >> >> too. If a developer is coherent it will use the Rails api
> >> >> with responsibility. If a developer isn't coherent, I think he will
> >> >> have a
> >> >> bad performance anyway, using Rails api or not.
> >> >> Beside of that, I think we should worry with performance in the right
> >> >> time.
> >> >> With a clean design, it will be easier to fix the problems when they
> >> >> appear.
> >> >> cheers
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Michael Koziarski
> >> >> <[email protected]>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Diego Carrion <[email protected]>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> > Hi,
> >> >>> > it would be nice to have the touch option in has_many associations
> >> >>> > also.
> >> >>> > I have a scenario like this:
> >> >>> > An user has some credit (money) and some advertises. Each
> advertise
> >> >>> > can
> >> >>> > be
> >> >>> > enabled or disabled depending on some rules. One of the rules is
> >> >>> > that
> >> >>> > the
> >> >>> > user should have money. Each time the money of the user change,
> the
> >> >>> > advertises are touched, enabled/disabled and then cached, as they
> >> >>> > are
> >> >>> > much
> >> >>> > more requested that updated.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'm a little concerned that adding :touch to has_many and friends is
> >> >>> encouraging bad practice (and terrible performance) when there's
> >> >>> almost certainly a more performant solution available.  It seems
> risky
> >> >>> to me to allow a single option on association to cause every
> instance
> >> >>> to be instantiated, changed, and written back to the database.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> In your particular case couldn't your cache keys include the
> >> >>> updated_at value from a user?   Alternatively you can get the
> >> >>> behaviour you want with a 1 line after_save function without too
> much
> >> >>> hassle?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Is there a use-case I'm missing here?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
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> >> >>>
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